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I didn’t make fun of you, though. I’m saying it’s not your right to complain about things you don’t know about if you don’t suffer harm, even and especially if

I didn’t make fun of you, though. I’m saying it’s not your right to complain about things you don’t know about if you don’t suffer harm, even and especially if you come to know about them. People make fun of other people for reasons or in the absence of them. For you to make a logical leap to imply I’m saying it’s okay to make fun of people, or saying that having a disability is a slight, or blameworthy, or deserving scorn or mockery, is to put words in my mouth. I’ve known deaf people who love going to concerts. They perceive the thrumming of the bass and the stomp of the crowd. They see the smiles and throw up their hands, and deaf folks are able to carry on a conversation by signing better than most folks who are hearing, especially when the music is turned up to 11. I’m more concerned with what might happen to assistive technologies meant to be used in public by low-vision and (legally or fully) blind users if public photography bans are passed than I am about any other passing concerns about being photographed in public, to be honest.

lynx97 1y ago
The "you" in my writing was refering to any photographer who takes a picture of me without my consent. I should probably mave made that clearer. IOW, I am not suggesting that you in particular are making fun of me or anyone you photograph. But since we were talking about strangers, I have no way of knowing how that photoographer will act. Sure, you in particular probably have a morale compass. However, in the general case, there is no way for me to know if the stranger taking a photo of me is a bad actor or not. And therefore, I oppose the "right" for anyone to do that, simply because I can never know what they will end up doing with that photo.
- aspenmayer 1y ago
  > And therefore, I oppose the "right" for anyone to do that, simply because I can never know what they will end up doing with that photo. Jurisprudence in my country can’t preempt legal activities because they might lead to wrongdoing in the future. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don’t know what you think folks are likely to do, but there are likely already laws against doing most things you would take umbrage with. There’s no need to winnow our rights out of concern for your “mights.”
  - nandomrumber 1y ago
    Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean you aren’t being a rude cunt. Which are here too. People can complain about whatever they want. It’s entirely legal to have an opinion, since you seem so preoccupied with laws.
    - aspenmayer 1y ago
      > Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean you aren’t being a rude cunt. I can’t top that as a “how do you do,” and yet, it’s both of our birthright to be “a rude cunt” or worse, within the bounds of the law.
      - nandomrumber 1y ago
        Excellent response, you made me laugh. I was getting enduly riled up over anonymous internet comments and was going to say something much more obnoxious, but not everyone gets Australian humour so I figured I’d tone it down. If I saw you take an unasked photo of our blind friend here, I’d let them know so they’d have an opportunity to approach you and ask you to deleted it, if they happen to feel motivated to do so, and offer to take care of it myself ;)
        aspenmayer 1y ago
        I’ve spent some time down under myself, and I would hope if you were to ever find me lacking, to the degree that you needed to take care of me, that you have the foresight to have that moment on camera, because such a photograph ought to go straight to the pool room.[0] [0] (For those who haven't seen The Castle (1997), you really owe it to the Australians in your life to make an appointment with yourself to do so at your earliest convenience. Here's the scene from the film in question which originated one of my favorite bits of Aussie slang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCtMTbKX6_I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCtMTbKX6_I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Castle_(1997_Australian_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Castle_(1997_Australian_fi... )
        1y ago

lynx97 1y ago

The "you" in my writing was refering to any photographer who takes a picture of me without my consent. I should probably mave made that clearer. IOW, I am not suggesting that you in particular are making fun of me or anyone you photograph. But since we were talking about strangers, I have no way of knowing how that photoographer will act. Sure, you in particular probably have a morale compass. However, in the general case, there is no way for me to know if the stranger taking a photo of me is a bad actor or not. And therefore, I oppose the "right" for anyone to do that, simply because I can never know what they will end up doing with that photo.

aspenmayer 1y ago
> And therefore, I oppose the "right" for anyone to do that, simply because I can never know what they will end up doing with that photo. Jurisprudence in my country can’t preempt legal activities because they might lead to wrongdoing in the future. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don’t know what you think folks are likely to do, but there are likely already laws against doing most things you would take umbrage with. There’s no need to winnow our rights out of concern for your “mights.”
- nandomrumber 1y ago
  Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean you aren’t being a rude cunt. Which are here too. People can complain about whatever they want. It’s entirely legal to have an opinion, since you seem so preoccupied with laws.
  - aspenmayer 1y ago
    > Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean you aren’t being a rude cunt. I can’t top that as a “how do you do,” and yet, it’s both of our birthright to be “a rude cunt” or worse, within the bounds of the law.
    - nandomrumber 1y ago
      Excellent response, you made me laugh. I was getting enduly riled up over anonymous internet comments and was going to say something much more obnoxious, but not everyone gets Australian humour so I figured I’d tone it down. If I saw you take an unasked photo of our blind friend here, I’d let them know so they’d have an opportunity to approach you and ask you to deleted it, if they happen to feel motivated to do so, and offer to take care of it myself ;)
      - aspenmayer 1y ago
        I’ve spent some time down under myself, and I would hope if you were to ever find me lacking, to the degree that you needed to take care of me, that you have the foresight to have that moment on camera, because such a photograph ought to go straight to the pool room.[0] [0] (For those who haven't seen The Castle (1997), you really owe it to the Australians in your life to make an appointment with yourself to do so at your earliest convenience. Here's the scene from the film in question which originated one of my favorite bits of Aussie slang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCtMTbKX6_I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCtMTbKX6_I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Castle_(1997_Australian_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Castle_(1997_Australian_fi... )
        1y ago