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> The world is simply moving on from dealing with the US. This seems to be an emotional reaction by the observer, not a quantified study, so citation needed.

by tgma 1y ago

> The world is simply moving on from dealing with the US. This seems to be an emotional reaction by the observer, not a quantified study, so citation needed. The US market is so big and relatively unified in language and regulations and that make you willing to bite a lot of bullets. Have you ever listed an app on the App Store and dealt with French BS, for example, for a relatively tiny market? > They will all just trade with each other instead. Many of the US products and services are not as commoditized.

ben_w 1y ago
> This seems to be an emotional reaction by the observer, not a quantified study, so citation needed. A citation would be good, yes. I've not seen overall import/export stats this year. But stats from a few years back, say that the number 1 and 2 imports and exports are food and oil? EVs significantly reduce demand for oil, but it's not got much to do with Trump. I saw the same stories as everyone else abouy soy bean exports to China going to zero, but that's just one export to just one country, not an overall trade update. > The US market is so big and relatively unified in language and regulations and that make you willing to bite a lot of bullets. Have you ever listed an app on the App Store and dealt with French BS, for example, for a relatively tiny market? Solving this is the primary purpose of the EU: unified single market. China also big, unified.
- tgma 1y ago
  > Solving this is the primary purpose of the EU: unified single market. > China also big, unified. Correct. It is a goal of the EU, but practically speaking, it isn't as nicely unified, and some reasons being inherent like the variety of languages. China is much more protectionist and you can't sell into it from the outside easily. US tariffs don't even come close to their tariff and non-tariff barriers. If you think of <20% tariff as Groupon discounts for US consumers buying a bunch of products together, it is likely a more than acceptable trade for many businesses.

by tgma 1y ago

ben_w 1y ago

> This seems to be an emotional reaction by the observer, not a quantified study, so citation needed. A citation would be good, yes. I've not seen overall import/export stats this year. But stats from a few years back, say that the number 1 and 2 imports and exports are food and oil? EVs significantly reduce demand for oil, but it's not got much to do with Trump. I saw the same stories as everyone else abouy soy bean exports to China going to zero, but that's just one export to just one country, not an overall trade update. > The US market is so big and relatively unified in language and regulations and that make you willing to bite a lot of bullets. Have you ever listed an app on the App Store and dealt with French BS, for example, for a relatively tiny market? Solving this is the primary purpose of the EU: unified single market. China also big, unified.

tgma 1y ago
> Solving this is the primary purpose of the EU: unified single market. > China also big, unified. Correct. It is a goal of the EU, but practically speaking, it isn't as nicely unified, and some reasons being inherent like the variety of languages. China is much more protectionist and you can't sell into it from the outside easily. US tariffs don't even come close to their tariff and non-tariff barriers. If you think of <20% tariff as Groupon discounts for US consumers buying a bunch of products together, it is likely a more than acceptable trade for many businesses.