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How’s that working out for US soybean farmers? The average American loves this Right up until they lose their farms, their distilleries, tourism-based jobs and

How’s that working out for US soybean farmers? The average American loves this Right up until they lose their farms, their distilleries, tourism-based jobs and everything else.

wood_spirit 1y ago
Talking of farming, are there any numbers on if AcreTrader or other similar companies has been buying up farmland, and if so how JD Vance’s investment has been performing?
- polotics 1y ago
  Double-plus-good upvote for your very good question. Tanking smaller players and putting more assets within the grap of current & future American Oligarchs seems to be the underlying playbook right now. This is 1991 Russia.
  - jrs235 1y ago
    Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac going public? An opportunity for billionaires to own the mortgages that will default as the economy [intentionally] continues to tank leading to defaults and transfer of the homes and properties backing the mortgages as collateral to the oligarch class.
- soco 1y ago
  Now this is a very (very!) interesting angle. Yes, are there numbers?
actsasbuffoon 1y ago
Considering how much harm he did to farmers in his first term, and they overwhelmingly voted for him again in 2020 and 2024, I’d say they apparently prefer this over the alternative. I don’t expect this to change anything.
- hackyhacky 1y ago
  Americans don't vote for policies, they vote for personalities. It literally doesn't matter to them if Trump bankrupts them, as long as they get to support the "tough guy" billionaire.
  - tgma 1y ago
    > literally doesn't matter to them if X bankrupts them If that were true, you'd not see economy as the top or one of the top issues. Perhaps some marginal short term economical concerns can be offset by personality/perceived cultural improvements, but not to the point of bankruptcy or even close. "It's the economy, stupid" was Clinton's slogan after all.
    - hackyhacky 1y ago
      > If that were true, you'd not see economy as the top or one of the top issues. Polls also show that Republicans rate economic conditions as positive when there's a Republican in office, and negative when there's a Democrat in office regardless of the actual state of the economy. (The effect is much weaker among Democrats.) This means that people care about the economy, but are terrible at knowing whether the economy is actually doing well or not, and certainly not educated enough to understand the impact that particular policies have on the economy. The conclusion is that when there's a Democrat in office, Republicans are told by the Republican news media that the economy is bad; and when there's a Republican in office, Republicans are told by the Republican news media that the economy is good. Find a conservative-leaning group on Facebook or reddit and see the resistance you get when you try to explain that Trump's tariffs are an inflationary tax on Americans. Political opinions have no bearing on reality, especially in the context of economic policy.
      - tgma 1y ago
        Doesn’t matter what they think about the economy at large in abstract terms; sure they may be right or wrong about that, but I definitely question all those who say people don’t know how they are supposed to feel about their individual economic condition. This is straight from central planning and social engineering BS. I would not underestimate human instinct.
FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago
Those farmers dont care as long as libs get owned and colored people get abused by ICE.
- DougN7 1y ago
  I lay the first half of that at the feet of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk. Decades of talk radio/propaganda turns out to be quite effective :(
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How’s that working out for US soybean farmers? The average American loves this Right up until they lose their farms, their distilleries, tourism-based jobs and everything else.

wood_spirit 1y ago

Talking of farming, are there any numbers on if AcreTrader or other similar companies has been buying up farmland, and if so how JD Vance’s investment has been performing?

polotics 1y ago
Double-plus-good upvote for your very good question. Tanking smaller players and putting more assets within the grap of current & future American Oligarchs seems to be the underlying playbook right now. This is 1991 Russia.
- jrs235 1y ago
  Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac going public? An opportunity for billionaires to own the mortgages that will default as the economy [intentionally] continues to tank leading to defaults and transfer of the homes and properties backing the mortgages as collateral to the oligarch class.
soco 1y ago
Now this is a very (very!) interesting angle. Yes, are there numbers?

actsasbuffoon 1y ago

Considering how much harm he did to farmers in his first term, and they overwhelmingly voted for him again in 2020 and 2024, I’d say they apparently prefer this over the alternative. I don’t expect this to change anything.

hackyhacky 1y ago
Americans don't vote for policies, they vote for personalities. It literally doesn't matter to them if Trump bankrupts them, as long as they get to support the "tough guy" billionaire.
- tgma 1y ago
  > literally doesn't matter to them if X bankrupts them If that were true, you'd not see economy as the top or one of the top issues. Perhaps some marginal short term economical concerns can be offset by personality/perceived cultural improvements, but not to the point of bankruptcy or even close. "It's the economy, stupid" was Clinton's slogan after all.
  - hackyhacky 1y ago
    > If that were true, you'd not see economy as the top or one of the top issues. Polls also show that Republicans rate economic conditions as positive when there's a Republican in office, and negative when there's a Democrat in office regardless of the actual state of the economy. (The effect is much weaker among Democrats.) This means that people care about the economy, but are terrible at knowing whether the economy is actually doing well or not, and certainly not educated enough to understand the impact that particular policies have on the economy. The conclusion is that when there's a Democrat in office, Republicans are told by the Republican news media that the economy is bad; and when there's a Republican in office, Republicans are told by the Republican news media that the economy is good. Find a conservative-leaning group on Facebook or reddit and see the resistance you get when you try to explain that Trump's tariffs are an inflationary tax on Americans. Political opinions have no bearing on reality, especially in the context of economic policy.
    - tgma 1y ago
      Doesn’t matter what they think about the economy at large in abstract terms; sure they may be right or wrong about that, but I definitely question all those who say people don’t know how they are supposed to feel about their individual economic condition. This is straight from central planning and social engineering BS. I would not underestimate human instinct.

FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago

Those farmers dont care as long as libs get owned and colored people get abused by ICE.

DougN7 1y ago
I lay the first half of that at the feet of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk. Decades of talk radio/propaganda turns out to be quite effective :(

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