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It wouldn't work at all as open source since you could just modify the source to sign your AI generated pictures.

drdaeman 1y ago
This is patently incorrect. Just remember the whole TiVo affair and reasons why GPLv3 was born. Source code availability does not guarantee ability to run it on the particular device.
- pabs3 1y ago
  The Software Freedom Conservancy thinks the GPLv2 guarantees the ability to modify existing GPLv2 software on a device, but does not guarantee the ability to still use the proprietary software running on top of that, and that the same applies with GPLv3. Reading the preamble of the GPLv2, I'm inclined to agree with them. Hasn't been tested in court yet though I think. https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/25/install-gplv2/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/25/install-gplv2/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/jul/23/tivoization-and-the-gpl-right-to-install/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/jul/23/tivoization-and-t... https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Safely-Copylefted-Cars-Reexamining-GPLv3-Installation-Information-Requirements-ALS-Bradley-Kuhn-Behan-Webster-1.pdf https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017...
a-dub 1y ago
it would. it would just require pki and a secure enclave that lives directly on the imaging chip to support it.
- _def 1y ago
  Is that possible with the chip used here? > What are the camera's specs? > The camera has a 16MP resolution, 4656 x 3496 pixels. It uses a Sony IMX519 CMOS sensor.
  - Retr0id 1y ago
    Seems like a pretty generic part available as a module https://thepihut.com/products/arducam-imx519-autofocus-camera-module-for-raspberry-pi https://thepihut.com/products/arducam-imx519-autofocus-camer... Uses the standard MIPI/CSI interface, which is not authenticated or anything of the sort. You can also buy HDMI-to-CSI adapters https://thepihut.com/products/hdmi-to-csi-adapter-for-raspberry-pi https://thepihut.com/products/hdmi-to-csi-adapter-for-raspbe... - should be easy enough to pipe your own video feed in as a substitute.
philipswood 1y ago
One could design a toolchain that posts a hashed signed version of the source used to produce a signed binary. Build and deploy what you want and if you want people to trust it and opt in then it is publicly available. In this case you get the signature and it confirms the device and links to a tamper proof snapshot of the code used to build its firmware.
nextlevelwizard 1y ago
Okay. What prevents you from printing out a AI generated picture and taking a photo of that with the camera?
- timberland127 1y ago
  46 chromosomes
  - nextlevelwizard 1y ago
    You sure you are running the correct number yourself?
- intrasight 1y ago
  Nothing. But I know it's you and not the New York Times publishing that photo. Now you get it?
  - nextlevelwizard 1y ago
    So why would I buy this if you still wouldn’t trust my photos? And why would NYT when you already trust them? Who is the target audience?
    - intrasight 1y ago
      I didn't say that I didn't trust yours. It's that I trust the NYTimes more.

This is patently incorrect. Just remember the whole TiVo affair and reasons why GPLv3 was born. Source code availability does not guarantee ability to run it on the particular device.

pabs3 1y ago
The Software Freedom Conservancy thinks the GPLv2 guarantees the ability to modify existing GPLv2 software on a device, but does not guarantee the ability to still use the proprietary software running on top of that, and that the same applies with GPLv3. Reading the preamble of the GPLv2, I'm inclined to agree with them. Hasn't been tested in court yet though I think. https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/25/install-gplv2/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/25/install-gplv2/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/jul/23/tivoization-and-the-gpl-right-to-install/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/jul/23/tivoization-and-t... https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Safely-Copylefted-Cars-Reexamining-GPLv3-Installation-Information-Requirements-ALS-Bradley-Kuhn-Behan-Webster-1.pdf https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017...

a-dub 1y ago

it would. it would just require pki and a secure enclave that lives directly on the imaging chip to support it.

_def 1y ago
Is that possible with the chip used here? > What are the camera's specs? > The camera has a 16MP resolution, 4656 x 3496 pixels. It uses a Sony IMX519 CMOS sensor.
- Retr0id 1y ago
  Seems like a pretty generic part available as a module https://thepihut.com/products/arducam-imx519-autofocus-camera-module-for-raspberry-pi https://thepihut.com/products/arducam-imx519-autofocus-camer... Uses the standard MIPI/CSI interface, which is not authenticated or anything of the sort. You can also buy HDMI-to-CSI adapters https://thepihut.com/products/hdmi-to-csi-adapter-for-raspberry-pi https://thepihut.com/products/hdmi-to-csi-adapter-for-raspbe... - should be easy enough to pipe your own video feed in as a substitute.

philipswood 1y ago

One could design a toolchain that posts a hashed signed version of the source used to produce a signed binary. Build and deploy what you want and if you want people to trust it and opt in then it is publicly available. In this case you get the signature and it confirms the device and links to a tamper proof snapshot of the code used to build its firmware.

nextlevelwizard 1y ago

Okay. What prevents you from printing out a AI generated picture and taking a photo of that with the camera?

timberland127 1y ago
46 chromosomes
- nextlevelwizard 1y ago
  You sure you are running the correct number yourself?
intrasight 1y ago
Nothing. But I know it's you and not the New York Times publishing that photo. Now you get it?
- nextlevelwizard 1y ago
  So why would I buy this if you still wouldn’t trust my photos? And why would NYT when you already trust them? Who is the target audience?
  - intrasight 1y ago
    I didn't say that I didn't trust yours. It's that I trust the NYTimes more.