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> wasted hours of time playing it What would you dictate that humans do instead to not be wasteful with their time? Comment on threads about games?
by someothherguyy 1y ago
> wasted hours of time playing it
What would you dictate that humans do instead to not be wasteful with their time? Comment on threads about games?
- beeflet 1y agoI don't know, reading? Building something? Exploring the natural world? Sports? Not to say that all video games are unsubstantive. But the substance in exploring virtual world comes from its uniqueness, not playing de_dust2 for 1000 hours. No other form of entertainment or art is analogous to video games in terms of the maximum time you can spend on it with totally depreciating returns.
- mashlol 1y agoWould you say the same if someone played 1000 hours of a sport?
- beeflet 1y agoNo. If you play 1000 hours of a sport, you will at least be stronger, more coordinated, more agile. But the downsides are more about repetitive strain injury and the possibility of screwing up your joints. Different benefits and downsides. Of course, a lot of guys are suckered into sports-related gambling these days too.
- ang_cire 1y agoYou don't think that you get better at CS the more you play it? Better coordination, better accuracy, etc?
- beeflet 1y agoyou don't get better at real life the more you play it
- Pooge 1y agoPlaying football for 1000 hours doesn't make you better at any other job (i.e real life). Don't be so close-minded; playing games is not different from any other activity.
- beeflet 1y agoonly because the jobs of our time are fake. Playing football or lacrosse is more "real" than working a desk job. For thousands of years, humans had to hunt and make tools and relied on their wits and strength to survive. Survival in the modern day is mostly a question of obedience. I think the purpose of exploring virtual worlds like quake or counter-strike or something should not be to escape the real world but rather to experience a new kind of physicality. The purpose of playing games should be to engage in a deeper world which is more "real" than the tame one we are ordinarily subjected to. It's why I am not opposed to video games. I opposed to overplaying video games because you ruin them, they become mundane and predictable.
- immibis 1y agoIt's not "more real" or "more useful" just because our ancient ancestors had to do it.
- jalapenos 1y agoSaddest thing I've heard today
- asukachikaru 1y agoHow about 1000 hours of chess? Or 1000 hours of warhammer? Or D&D? One may say you make social bonds playing them, but that stands true for video game as well. Speaking for myself, I definitely spent more than 1000 hours on summoner's rift; 15 years later me and my league friends still playing LOL together and chat about all kind of things on a daily basis.
- user432678 1y agoHow about 1000 hours reading/commenting HN?
- bombcar 1y agodang should enable selling posts and create a secondary market. My posts with the most upvotes can be sold to you and now YOU’RE the famous one!
- immibis 1y agoVideo gaming has been shown to train some brain areas too. It's definitely better than 1000 hours of Netflix.
- jalapenos 1y agoThat's a very fair take
- jalapenos 1y agoPlus you'll have friends who play sports, rather than the kinds of people who spend all night clicking on each other
- episteme 1y agoPlaying de_dust2 for 1000 hours is as reductive as saying playing on a soccer pitch for 1000 hours. And soccer only has 1 map.
- jalapenos 1y ago> soccer only has 1 map Oh that is gold, that's a special kind of "far gone" - to measure real world things by how many "maps" they have
- jalapenos 1y agoWow you really hit a nerve, lol - surprised to discover HN has such a large community of CS NPCs
- themafia 1y agoThey can do whatever they want with their time. Except operate and profit off of make shift casinos and unregulated games of chance.
- janwl 1y agoWhy exactly? Why are these games of chance moral only if the government gets a cut?
- themafia 1y agoRegulation also means that children are excluded, debt is not allowed, and all chips can be settled for cash when the player leaves the property. Even the comps are regulated. The majority of casinos in the US are Indian casinos. When they aren't and are taxed by the government those funds are usually used to improve and fund the local area giving the local citizens the ability to decide, through legislation, if it should be continued or outlawed. Finally, Steam pays taxes in the US, so the government is already "getting a cut." Games of chance are not moral. Unregulated games of chance are flatly evil.
- janwl 1y agoGames of chance are absolutely moral and completely fine when played by adults who are not mentally incapacitated.
- hshdhdhehd 1y agoGambling houses make the most money from "adults who are mentally incapacitated"
- jimbob45 1y agoAny ranked matchmaking game is designed to addict you by the prospect of being ranked as elite. They have a number of insidious methods to keep your ranking low, some are even patented by the game companies themselves! For example, if someone is getting too high, it’s nothing to pair that person with a known deserter for 1-3 games to drastically slow their progress.
- jalapenos 1y agoI think you hit a nerve
- LunaSea 1y agoWe should probably ban all sports then because it tricks people in wanting to be competitive.
- jimbob45 1y agoNo, just the promises of going pro. The conversion rate for high school athletes to the NFL or NBA is less than a hundredth of a percent combined. There are kids skipping classes and destroying their bodies thinking they’re going to go pro when they’re not.
- LunaSea 1y agoWe should van universities as well since its possible to get failing grades and fail your year.
- rand17 1y agoWasted is a rather strong word and yes, the whole argument is a slippery slope _but_ I can imagine sports that are less about glorifying deadly violence in a very realistic manner - the loot box and real money part is just the bitter cherry on top.
- apt-apt-apt-apt 1y agoGlorify? This seems way too serious a take on a game that young males play because of a common, innate fascination with guns and soldiers. 99.9999% of them do not turn into manic killers who just love to kill and glorify it.
- lm28469 1y ago> because of a common, innate fascination with guns Your brain after 200+ years of american propaganda... it's innate in the sense that you're bathed in it from birth through movies and games, and that a good chunk of your economy relies on producing weapons and using them.
- apt-apt-apt-apt 1y agoI feel like young males in all times would be innately fascinated with equivalents like bows and arrows and swords.
- rand17 1y agoYet most computer games employ firearms and the targets are other humans, rarely (but of course not never) you hunt and gather food for survival. Don't get me wrong, I played my fair share of games from the earliest 8bit machines in the eighties to modern day shooters but in my opinion glorification comes unintended and killing is a cheap game mechanic, and has always been: here, in backwater European country, middle of nowhere, we have zero domestic gun violence, maybe even 0.0001% is just too much.
- TheOtherHobbes 1y ago
- jalapenos 1y agoFair, but my comments only waste a few minutes of my time, and they're free.