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Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this.

mcmcmc 11mo ago
If you’re not fine with criminals who get away with fraud, why vote for a well known fraudster? He’s been conning people since the 80s
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vel0city 11mo ago
Honestly, why did you vote for this then?
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greenpizza13 11mo ago
Well, you voted for it. Were you not capable of critical thought when you entered the voting booth?
- 0xedd 11mo ago
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leptons 11mo ago
You knew who he is, and you voted for him anyway. You really didn't see this kind of rampant corruption coming from his 2nd term?
i34ubt4q2 11mo ago
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HDThoreaun 11mo ago
Trump is the most openly corrupt leader in american history. How can you vote for him while claiming to be against corruption?
- naijaboiler 11mo ago
  Because he’s giving them the one thing they really care about “white nationalism” They will overlook everything else he does. Everything
  - tastyfreeze 11mo ago
    Just stop with that BS. I guarantee that "white nationalism" was the farthest thing from the majority of Trump voters mind. If you come out of the gate saying all Trump supporters are racist most people are just going to roll their eyes at you at walk away. You have already told them you dont like them and that you will most likely not even entertain their reasons as acceptable.
    - jakelazaroff 11mo ago
      What exactly did you think you were voting for then? Because everything he's done has been extremely predictable.
      - tastyfreeze 11mo ago
        A chance of making the federal government smaller and less overbearing. Also a path that didn't inevitably lead to civil war.
        jakelazaroff 11mo ago
        That's such a vague response that it's difficult to respond with any specifics, but I will say that I can't imagine how you thought Donald Trump was the better of the two candidates to achieve either of these goals.
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cthalupa 11mo ago
Serious set of questions here from someone desperately trying to understand people who voted for Trump and how to have conversations with them that can be productive. None of them are meant to be insulting or insinuate anything. To me, this sort of behavior just seems par for the course for how he has been acting since before his presidency. Did you follow his record in business and politics closely prior to voting for him? If so, what mitigating factors were there that let you still feel comfortable in voting for him? Is this an isolated source of issue with him? Part of a broader trend? In either case, is it/these a big enough deal for him to lose your support moving forward? For the rest of the political party supporting him? If there has been a shift in your ability to support him, what is it that broke the camel's back?
- econ 11mo ago
  It is remarkably simple. There are countless meals on the menu but people get to see only the two on the front page. Say, monkey brains and bull testicles. Few can really appreciate either. There is a little talk about the slugs on page 1. An abysmal small number will turn a few pages and look over the burgers and pizzas... but you can't really order a burger in a restaurant like this? Can you? So even they pretend they really like to eat testicles. You could have literally opened a random page and order whatever is on there. It is perfectly safe to order the burger as you will most likely be served monkey brains anyway. No one will rage at you for voting for Afroman. There are no dire consequences.
  - cthalupa 11mo ago
    I just honestly feel like any attempt to equate the two is insane. I can't really align myself to either party, and I am diametrically opposed to the Democrats on some issues, like gun control, and think that there are a lot of real issues that they push far to the extreme to the point that it is problematic, but... there's also only one party that attempted insurrection and overturning the election, campaigned on all sorts of insane shit, pushes a narrative of needing the military to deal with protestors, etc. It's not two shit sandwiches, it's a pot of live pit vipers vs a pot of boiled unseasoned kale and spinach. I'm not going to enjoy the latter, but it's probably not going to harm anything more than my taste buds. The other might kill me.
smt88 11mo ago
People are going to pile on you for not seeing this coming, but I really do appreciate your ability to change your mind and tell people about it. People need space to make a U-turn. I hope you get some grace because it's a lot easier to say "I told you so" than "I was wrong."
- HDThoreaun 11mo ago
  > People need space to make a U-turn The problem is we dont believe him. There has been ample time to make a u turn. A decade at this point. Trump has never shied away from his corruption. He has been upfront about his intentions from the beginning. I just do not believe that this is the straw that broke the camels back when so many straws have come before.
- silverquiet 11mo ago
  I don't see where the GP changed their mind. They may not be ok with this particular action while still preferring the current administration to any alternative.
- Hikikomori 11mo ago
  How wasn't his first 4 years enough time?
ceo_tim_crook 11mo ago
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lostdog 11mo ago
> Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this. Welcome to the resistance! Just curious. Since you voted for someone who is a terrible President last time, what are you planning to change about how you make voting decisions next time? Are there particular people or media you plan to listen to less, and others more? Particular aspects you will weight higher or lower?
- froggertoaster 11mo ago
  Just to be clear, I'm not part of any "resistance". I don't know what that is. Sounds awfully tribalistic - something I go out of my way to avoid.
  - lostdog 11mo ago
    I'm just using "resistance" as a joke here. But seriously, I am curious how you previously made decisions about who to vote for, and how you are thinking about changing how you decide your voting preferences in the future?
vkou 11mo ago
If you think this is wrong, please, I implore you to do something about it. Your reps (or likely preferred choice of reps, if they didn't win their district) are enabling this, and don't give two shits about anything I say.
0xTJ 11mo ago
He was clear about how he intended to run the country in his last term. And in the lead-up to the election. You are complicit in his crimes.
froggertoaster 11mo ago
Thanks for all of the comments. I wasn't replying simply because I haven't seen them, but based on the comments I actually got: I feel like my words would be like yelling into a vacuum regardless of what I actually say.

mcmcmc 11mo ago

If you’re not fine with criminals who get away with fraud, why vote for a well known fraudster? He’s been conning people since the 80s

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vel0city 11mo ago

Honestly, why did you vote for this then?

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greenpizza13 11mo ago

Well, you voted for it. Were you not capable of critical thought when you entered the voting booth?

0xedd 11mo ago
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leptons 11mo ago

You knew who he is, and you voted for him anyway. You really didn't see this kind of rampant corruption coming from his 2nd term?

i34ubt4q2 11mo ago

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HDThoreaun 11mo ago

Trump is the most openly corrupt leader in american history. How can you vote for him while claiming to be against corruption?

naijaboiler 11mo ago
Because he’s giving them the one thing they really care about “white nationalism” They will overlook everything else he does. Everything
- tastyfreeze 11mo ago
  Just stop with that BS. I guarantee that "white nationalism" was the farthest thing from the majority of Trump voters mind. If you come out of the gate saying all Trump supporters are racist most people are just going to roll their eyes at you at walk away. You have already told them you dont like them and that you will most likely not even entertain their reasons as acceptable.
  - jakelazaroff 11mo ago
    What exactly did you think you were voting for then? Because everything he's done has been extremely predictable.
    - tastyfreeze 11mo ago
      A chance of making the federal government smaller and less overbearing. Also a path that didn't inevitably lead to civil war.
      - jakelazaroff 11mo ago
        That's such a vague response that it's difficult to respond with any specifics, but I will say that I can't imagine how you thought Donald Trump was the better of the two candidates to achieve either of these goals.
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cthalupa 11mo ago

Serious set of questions here from someone desperately trying to understand people who voted for Trump and how to have conversations with them that can be productive. None of them are meant to be insulting or insinuate anything. To me, this sort of behavior just seems par for the course for how he has been acting since before his presidency. Did you follow his record in business and politics closely prior to voting for him? If so, what mitigating factors were there that let you still feel comfortable in voting for him? Is this an isolated source of issue with him? Part of a broader trend? In either case, is it/these a big enough deal for him to lose your support moving forward? For the rest of the political party supporting him? If there has been a shift in your ability to support him, what is it that broke the camel's back?

econ 11mo ago
It is remarkably simple. There are countless meals on the menu but people get to see only the two on the front page. Say, monkey brains and bull testicles. Few can really appreciate either. There is a little talk about the slugs on page 1. An abysmal small number will turn a few pages and look over the burgers and pizzas... but you can't really order a burger in a restaurant like this? Can you? So even they pretend they really like to eat testicles. You could have literally opened a random page and order whatever is on there. It is perfectly safe to order the burger as you will most likely be served monkey brains anyway. No one will rage at you for voting for Afroman. There are no dire consequences.
- cthalupa 11mo ago
  I just honestly feel like any attempt to equate the two is insane. I can't really align myself to either party, and I am diametrically opposed to the Democrats on some issues, like gun control, and think that there are a lot of real issues that they push far to the extreme to the point that it is problematic, but... there's also only one party that attempted insurrection and overturning the election, campaigned on all sorts of insane shit, pushes a narrative of needing the military to deal with protestors, etc. It's not two shit sandwiches, it's a pot of live pit vipers vs a pot of boiled unseasoned kale and spinach. I'm not going to enjoy the latter, but it's probably not going to harm anything more than my taste buds. The other might kill me.

smt88 11mo ago

People are going to pile on you for not seeing this coming, but I really do appreciate your ability to change your mind and tell people about it. People need space to make a U-turn. I hope you get some grace because it's a lot easier to say "I told you so" than "I was wrong."

HDThoreaun 11mo ago
> People need space to make a U-turn The problem is we dont believe him. There has been ample time to make a u turn. A decade at this point. Trump has never shied away from his corruption. He has been upfront about his intentions from the beginning. I just do not believe that this is the straw that broke the camels back when so many straws have come before.
silverquiet 11mo ago
I don't see where the GP changed their mind. They may not be ok with this particular action while still preferring the current administration to any alternative.
Hikikomori 11mo ago
How wasn't his first 4 years enough time?

ceo_tim_crook 11mo ago

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lostdog 11mo ago

> Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this. Welcome to the resistance! Just curious. Since you voted for someone who is a terrible President last time, what are you planning to change about how you make voting decisions next time? Are there particular people or media you plan to listen to less, and others more? Particular aspects you will weight higher or lower?

froggertoaster 11mo ago
Just to be clear, I'm not part of any "resistance". I don't know what that is. Sounds awfully tribalistic - something I go out of my way to avoid.
- lostdog 11mo ago
  I'm just using "resistance" as a joke here. But seriously, I am curious how you previously made decisions about who to vote for, and how you are thinking about changing how you decide your voting preferences in the future?

vkou 11mo ago

If you think this is wrong, please, I implore you to do something about it. Your reps (or likely preferred choice of reps, if they didn't win their district) are enabling this, and don't give two shits about anything I say.

0xTJ 11mo ago

He was clear about how he intended to run the country in his last term. And in the lead-up to the election. You are complicit in his crimes.

froggertoaster 11mo ago

Thanks for all of the comments. I wasn't replying simply because I haven't seen them, but based on the comments I actually got: I feel like my words would be like yelling into a vacuum regardless of what I actually say.