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Is autopen a particular sore point in the US for some reason?

TheBlight 1y ago
There's a potential implication that the president wasn't the one making the decisions and they were political favors doled out by unnamed and unaccountable staff. If the president felt strongly about that perception he could've signed them himself. But he seemingly didn't.
- etchalon 1y ago
  The autopen has been widely used without controversy, including by Trump.
  - gottorf 1y ago
    The controversy with Biden is that the autopen was allegedly used without the President's knowledge or directive. Nobody has a problem with POTUS's signature getting on a piece of paper without his hand actually holding the pen; that's not the point here.
    - etchalon 1y ago
      There is absolutely no evidence it was used without his knowledge.
    - mlyle 1y ago
      "Allegedly" is the key word here. Alleged by people who allege a whole lot of untrue things and don't seem to have any evidence for this particular thing.
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      Did he say that pardons were issued that he did not approve of?
tripplyons 1y ago
I think the conspiracy is that someone pardoned people without Joe Biden's approval right before Trump was inaugurated.
topaz0 1y ago
There's a conspiracy theory that Biden wasn't competent enough to sign stuff, at least for some period at the end of his term, with the implication being that none of those presidential acts are valid. Anybody who believes this is mired in an impenetrable misinformation bubble and should be dismissed out of hand.
- nailer 1y ago
  There’s a conspiracy theory that Biden was secretly competent at the end of his presidency despite public appearances otherwise.
  - topaz0 1y ago
    Hey I'm not disagreeing that he was in cognitive decline, but the idea that all executive action should be nullified because of that is crank shit.
Hikikomori 1y ago
Yet you can decide that the secret documents store in your toilet are declassified with a thought?
CyberDildonics 1y ago
There is not, but right wing propaganda avoids lots of actual news, events and statements because it doesn't look good. To fill the time there are lots of narratives about non issues without evidence.

There's a potential implication that the president wasn't the one making the decisions and they were political favors doled out by unnamed and unaccountable staff. If the president felt strongly about that perception he could've signed them himself. But he seemingly didn't.

etchalon 1y ago
The autopen has been widely used without controversy, including by Trump.
- gottorf 1y ago
  The controversy with Biden is that the autopen was allegedly used without the President's knowledge or directive. Nobody has a problem with POTUS's signature getting on a piece of paper without his hand actually holding the pen; that's not the point here.
  - etchalon 1y ago
    There is absolutely no evidence it was used without his knowledge.
  - mlyle 1y ago
    "Allegedly" is the key word here. Alleged by people who allege a whole lot of untrue things and don't seem to have any evidence for this particular thing.
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    Did he say that pardons were issued that he did not approve of?

tripplyons 1y ago

I think the conspiracy is that someone pardoned people without Joe Biden's approval right before Trump was inaugurated.

topaz0 1y ago

There's a conspiracy theory that Biden wasn't competent enough to sign stuff, at least for some period at the end of his term, with the implication being that none of those presidential acts are valid. Anybody who believes this is mired in an impenetrable misinformation bubble and should be dismissed out of hand.

nailer 1y ago
There’s a conspiracy theory that Biden was secretly competent at the end of his presidency despite public appearances otherwise.
- topaz0 1y ago
  Hey I'm not disagreeing that he was in cognitive decline, but the idea that all executive action should be nullified because of that is crank shit.

Hikikomori 1y ago

Yet you can decide that the secret documents store in your toilet are declassified with a thought?

CyberDildonics 1y ago

There is not, but right wing propaganda avoids lots of actual news, events and statements because it doesn't look good. To fill the time there are lots of narratives about non issues without evidence.