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Every generation of the production Nissan Leaf has used lithium batteries. AFAIK no modern (~post-2000) mass-produced (>10k units sold) EV has ever used NiMH or
by MrRadar 11mo ago
Every generation of the production Nissan Leaf has used lithium batteries. AFAIK no modern (~post-2000) mass-produced (>10k units sold) EV has ever used NiMH or lead-acid batteries.
Edit: Checking Wikipedia to verify my information, I found out that Nissan actually sold a lithium-battery EV in 1997 to comply with the same 90s CARB zero-emissions vehicle mandate that gave us the GM EV-1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_R%27nessa#Nissan_Altra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_R%27nessa#Nissan_Altra
- formerly_proven 11mo agoEVs no, but I think some Toyota hybrids (which are of course not even PHEVs) still use NiMH. Toyota tends to be very tight-lipped about their batteries and their sizes (or rather, lack thereof).
- numpad0 11mo agoTends to be tight lipped??? It is in the catalog[1]! It is more that American consumers aren't tech obsessed than Toyota being reluctant to share. Even just looking at online media reports[2][3] clearly sourced from some exact same press event, it is obvious that US English equivalents are much lighter in content than Japanese versions. They're putting the information out, no one's reading it. It's just been the types of information that didn't drive clicks. Language barrier would have effects on it too, that Toyota is a Japanese company and US is an export market, but it's fundamentally the same phenomenon as citizen facing government reports that never gets read and often imagined as being "hidden and withheld from public eyes", just a communication issue. 1: https://www.toyota.com/priuspluginhybrid/features/mpg_other_price/1235/1237/1239 https://www.toyota.com/priuspluginhybrid/features/mpg_other_... 2: https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyota-aqua-prius-c-hybrid-battery-technology https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyota-aqua-prius-c-hybrid-b... 3: https://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1339263.html https://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1339263.html
- avhception 11mo agoIt's nice to get a reminder about this problem once in a while, I've fallen into the trap myself at times.
- taneq 11mo agoInterestingly they don't tell you anything (unless I missed it) about the battery for the non-plugin hybrids, eg. the Corolla Cross: https://www.toyota.com/corollacross/features/mpg_other_price/6301/6303/6316 https://www.toyota.com/corollacross/features/mpg_other_price... I was looking up this year's Corolla a while ago and likewise there was minimal info that I could see about the battery capacity, which I think I figured out was about 3kWh.
- formerly_proven 11mo agoDespite your ??? and ! the only article you posted that's about hybrids (and not PHEVs) mentions nothing about battery capacity.
- close04 11mo ago> Battery capacity (kWh) 13.6 It's under Weights/Capacities but you have to expand the section yourself, no way to link directly to it.
- formerly_proven 11mo agoThe page you are referring to is literally titled "Plug-In Hybrid Specifications" /out
- close04 11mo agoSorry, I just saw you objected to the lack of information for battery capacity, not the type of hybrid or chemistry.
- whaleofatw2022 11mo agoEarly Hybrids used NiMH because Chevron was holding on to a lot of the patents around using Lithium Ion for the purpose IIRC.