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Step 1: I made this thing and am freely giving it away for the benefit of everyone. Come join the party! Step 2: Wow, because this is a community project I can

by Spivak 1y ago

Step 1: I made this thing and am freely giving it away for the benefit of everyone. Come join the party! Step 2: Wow, because this is a community project I can depend on it continuing to exist freely thanks to a large base of diverse parties invested in its continued growth and availability. Step 3: Just kidding, I'm taking back the thing I made. Sorry if you were depending on it, migrate to something else or pay me. Step 4: WTF dude?! Step 5: Why are you all so entitled?

michaelgiba 1y ago
They stopped publishing images, not like they changed anything significant about the product itself. Frankly the whole thing is not newsworthy
- JokerDan 1y ago
  > not like they changed anything significant about the product itself They had already done this months ago, they changed the licence and stripped a lot of the code of their admin UI/object browser. So a lot of the features vanished for people overnight if they updated. This is what the OP is linked to - a fork at the point that they did this. This was work already done, feature already widely in use, they decided to take it out of what was available to the community. So the product has significantly changed and offering had been reduced. That in addition to the stopping of publishing images - both without notice - caused a decent bit off community 'wtf'.
- 0x457 1y ago
  https://github.com/minio/object-browser/issues/3546 https://github.com/minio/object-browser/issues/3546
ianbutler 1y ago
What is so hard about the idea that you are not perpetually entitled to the free labor of other people? The only thing they owed people here was a 60 day notice imo. That would better respect the social contract.
- Spivak 1y ago
  I'm not. If they had simply said, "Hey this is getting to be too much work and I don't want to continue anymore. Let me know if you're interested in taking over maintainership of the project." then that's fine. Hell even if they just archived the project and ghosted never to be seen again that's also fine. It's (yet another) example of a company donning the trappings of an open source project as a "growth hack" or to secure VC funding and then rug pulling when they decide they want to try and squeeze their user base for cash. They're the corporate stooges that insert themselves into high-trust communities and subcultures to make a buck and ruin it for everyone.
  - ianbutler 1y ago
    I mean is it though? They've been open source for over a decade thats a really long con I guess. It’s more likely circumstances have changed. Which is why forking is a thing and you dont have to be oss forever. I stand by my assertion that this would have been fine if they didn’t communicate like garbage. They should have said what you said and gave a good off ramp period.
- ekjhgkejhgk 1y ago
  I agree with you. But people are allowed to complain, so they're complaining. And the maintainers are allowed to ignore the complaining. Everything is according to the process.
  - ianbutler 1y ago
    Yeah I suppose you’re right
- evilduck 1y ago
  There was a 60 days notice? https://blog.min.io/ https://blog.min.io/ The only notice I have received is from the blowback of their behavior. Walking away from supporting the open source product at any other time than in the wake of a security vulnerability disclosure would have been received better. Sure they're not legally culpable for fixing anything but they're now obviously untrustworthy as a business partner going forwards.

by Spivak 1y ago

michaelgiba 1y ago

They stopped publishing images, not like they changed anything significant about the product itself. Frankly the whole thing is not newsworthy

JokerDan 1y ago
> not like they changed anything significant about the product itself They had already done this months ago, they changed the licence and stripped a lot of the code of their admin UI/object browser. So a lot of the features vanished for people overnight if they updated. This is what the OP is linked to - a fork at the point that they did this. This was work already done, feature already widely in use, they decided to take it out of what was available to the community. So the product has significantly changed and offering had been reduced. That in addition to the stopping of publishing images - both without notice - caused a decent bit off community 'wtf'.
0x457 1y ago
https://github.com/minio/object-browser/issues/3546 https://github.com/minio/object-browser/issues/3546

ianbutler 1y ago

What is so hard about the idea that you are not perpetually entitled to the free labor of other people? The only thing they owed people here was a 60 day notice imo. That would better respect the social contract.

Spivak 1y ago
I'm not. If they had simply said, "Hey this is getting to be too much work and I don't want to continue anymore. Let me know if you're interested in taking over maintainership of the project." then that's fine. Hell even if they just archived the project and ghosted never to be seen again that's also fine. It's (yet another) example of a company donning the trappings of an open source project as a "growth hack" or to secure VC funding and then rug pulling when they decide they want to try and squeeze their user base for cash. They're the corporate stooges that insert themselves into high-trust communities and subcultures to make a buck and ruin it for everyone.
- ianbutler 1y ago
  I mean is it though? They've been open source for over a decade thats a really long con I guess. It’s more likely circumstances have changed. Which is why forking is a thing and you dont have to be oss forever. I stand by my assertion that this would have been fine if they didn’t communicate like garbage. They should have said what you said and gave a good off ramp period.
ekjhgkejhgk 1y ago
I agree with you. But people are allowed to complain, so they're complaining. And the maintainers are allowed to ignore the complaining. Everything is according to the process.
- ianbutler 1y ago
  Yeah I suppose you’re right
evilduck 1y ago
There was a 60 days notice? https://blog.min.io/ https://blog.min.io/ The only notice I have received is from the blowback of their behavior. Walking away from supporting the open source product at any other time than in the wake of a security vulnerability disclosure would have been received better. Sure they're not legally culpable for fixing anything but they're now obviously untrustworthy as a business partner going forwards.