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> understand the self-interested desire for the ultra wealthy to have lower taxes on an individual level I don’t. They have tens of millions to billions. What

> understand the self-interested desire for the ultra wealthy to have lower taxes on an individual level I don’t. They have tens of millions to billions. What more do they want? Three yachts instead of two? A higher score than some other rich douchebag destroying lives for fun?

georgemcbay 1y ago
> A higher score than some other rich douchebag destroying lives for fun? I mean, yeah, I think this is mostly it. Its gamification. At the top level they all have more wealth than they could ever possibly use, even accounting for many generations of offspring.
- SubiculumCode 1y ago
  In large part, but I also suspect its about consolidation of political control...we are making our own permanent oligarchy.
  - georgemcbay 1y ago
    > we are making our own permanent oligarchy. Attempting to, and might get away with it for a while. But I suspect next time there is an inevitable "equal but opposite reaction" the guillotine plans will be optimized using LLMs with shared open sourced designs. (And in the current political environment, I think I should clarify this isn't me threatening violence -- I don't want violence. It is me recognizing that history "rhymes" while the rhyming patterns tend to happen on a faster and faster pace)
voakbasda 1y ago
All. They want it all.
jandrese 1y ago
"Business is a good game—lots of competition and a minimum of rules. You keep score with money" -- Nolan Bushnell Once you get that wealthy the money is more of a disk measuring contest. There is no productive way for one person to really use money of that magnitude, the best they can do is dump it into stocks, bonds, real-estate, etc..., but nothing that really moves the economy. It's a big failure from an economic standpoint. Lots of "dead" money not being productively used.
toast0 1y ago
> Three yachts instead of two? No, the thing is to have a yacht with a yacht for a dinghy. And that comes with a helicopter.

georgemcbay 1y ago

> A higher score than some other rich douchebag destroying lives for fun? I mean, yeah, I think this is mostly it. Its gamification. At the top level they all have more wealth than they could ever possibly use, even accounting for many generations of offspring.

SubiculumCode 1y ago
In large part, but I also suspect its about consolidation of political control...we are making our own permanent oligarchy.
- georgemcbay 1y ago
  > we are making our own permanent oligarchy. Attempting to, and might get away with it for a while. But I suspect next time there is an inevitable "equal but opposite reaction" the guillotine plans will be optimized using LLMs with shared open sourced designs. (And in the current political environment, I think I should clarify this isn't me threatening violence -- I don't want violence. It is me recognizing that history "rhymes" while the rhyming patterns tend to happen on a faster and faster pace)

voakbasda 1y ago

All. They want it all.

jandrese 1y ago

"Business is a good game—lots of competition and a minimum of rules. You keep score with money" -- Nolan Bushnell Once you get that wealthy the money is more of a disk measuring contest. There is no productive way for one person to really use money of that magnitude, the best they can do is dump it into stocks, bonds, real-estate, etc..., but nothing that really moves the economy. It's a big failure from an economic standpoint. Lots of "dead" money not being productively used.

toast0 1y ago

> Three yachts instead of two? No, the thing is to have a yacht with a yacht for a dinghy. And that comes with a helicopter.