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> When did the US government ever care about human rights? July 4 1776

hirvi74 1y ago
Educate me. How cruel was the treatment from the British truly? My understanding was things like "no taxation without representation" was unrealistic due to the sheer distance and amount of time required to travel between the US and the UK. We're talking somewhere around 2-4 months one way. To send a rep back and forth with a message like: US sends rep -> Uk and rep interact -> rep goes back to US with UK decision -> the US give their answer and the rep goes back to UK -> then rep goes back to the US with the UK's decision. Such an interaction could take well over a year. I also thought the US was the lowest taxed colony under British control? Not to mention it's not like the British didn't provide military protection to the colonies as well. I am not saying the revolution was purely unjustified, but I am not really aware of how bad things truly were. My history classes kind of glossed over that part.
- pear01 1y ago
  Fwiw I believe the comment you are replying to was being sarcastic. Thus, you don't need educating. You're making their point.
- whateveracct 1y ago
  The United States' way of government was revolutionary for its time, based on the cutting edge of human philosophy in many ways. The Bills of (negative) Rights in particular. It is a shame that it is being destroyed at lightspeed the last year, and worse that many don't seem to care.
- dirtyoldmick 1y ago
  We didn't want to be ruled by wankers!
  - jimnotgym 1y ago
    I'm sorry that didn't work out for you.
- tastyfreeze 1y ago
  The colonial grievances that led to war are explicitly stated in the Declaration of Independence. It can be assumed that the British occupation forces were just as brutal as any other occupying military force in history. The only restraint in those situations is morals and a boss that was across an ocean.
nucleogenesis 1y ago
At that point “human” really only meant the white man who owns property though eh?
- excalibur 1y ago
  Baby steps

Educate me. How cruel was the treatment from the British truly? My understanding was things like "no taxation without representation" was unrealistic due to the sheer distance and amount of time required to travel between the US and the UK. We're talking somewhere around 2-4 months one way. To send a rep back and forth with a message like: US sends rep -> Uk and rep interact -> rep goes back to US with UK decision -> the US give their answer and the rep goes back to UK -> then rep goes back to the US with the UK's decision. Such an interaction could take well over a year. I also thought the US was the lowest taxed colony under British control? Not to mention it's not like the British didn't provide military protection to the colonies as well. I am not saying the revolution was purely unjustified, but I am not really aware of how bad things truly were. My history classes kind of glossed over that part.

pear01 1y ago
Fwiw I believe the comment you are replying to was being sarcastic. Thus, you don't need educating. You're making their point.
whateveracct 1y ago
The United States' way of government was revolutionary for its time, based on the cutting edge of human philosophy in many ways. The Bills of (negative) Rights in particular. It is a shame that it is being destroyed at lightspeed the last year, and worse that many don't seem to care.
dirtyoldmick 1y ago
We didn't want to be ruled by wankers!
- jimnotgym 1y ago
  I'm sorry that didn't work out for you.
tastyfreeze 1y ago
The colonial grievances that led to war are explicitly stated in the Declaration of Independence. It can be assumed that the British occupation forces were just as brutal as any other occupying military force in history. The only restraint in those situations is morals and a boss that was across an ocean.

nucleogenesis 1y ago

At that point “human” really only meant the white man who owns property though eh?

excalibur 1y ago
Baby steps