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> Are engineers this terrified of originality that celebrating generic imagery would become a battle cry of mediocrity? I think it's OP who is more terrified o
by love2read 1y ago
> Are engineers this terrified of originality that celebrating generic imagery would become a battle cry of mediocrity?
I think it's OP who is more terrified of the originality of letting anyone create with AI.
> This is unusual, a drive to embrace uniformity, and perhaps this is what internet pluralization is about. Those lacking visual imagination would come together celebrate mediocrity of imagery as a battle-cry, rally around software that roboticizes creativity.
It's almost comical how opposite my read of this was. Forcing people to "learn how to draw" is embracing uniformity rather than letting them create with whatever tool is available to them.
> The tone of these replies seems to reveal a rage that's about defending the right to eviscerate creativity.
Is creating tools to make it easier to create really the evisceration of creativity or the creation of new venues to create? In my mind it's the latter.
- Marshferm 1y agoLearning to draw is fundamentally linked to creativity. These are direct connections to thoughts, which are action-syntax. (btw lack of uniformity is on display even in these very young sketchers) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871187124001275 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187118712... While the use of words to be creative is lessening as an indication of direct access to the imagination. As prompts for creativity, the sciences increasingly tell us this is fundamentally impairing. “We refute (based on empirical evidence) claims that humans use linguistic representations to think.” Ev Fedorenko Language Lab MIT 2024
- love2read 1y agoIt doesn't matter. When I need to insert a screw I don't stick to a screwdriver because it gives me more exercise, I use a drill, because I can and I have access to one, and that's all there is to it. Any time you find yourself justifying people use a less powerful tool for a job you are probably in the wrong...
- Marshferm 1y agoNot a valid analogy. Screwdriving is semantic episodic memory, drawing is working memory interacting with senses and emotions. Tool use isnt reducible the way youre describing and it’s probably how engineers conflate basic tool use with complex tool and precision idiosyncratic dexterity. They have no relation.
- love2read 1y agowhile you are making up connections in your mind I made revisions for designs for a business using nano banana 10x in the same hour the logo designer i contacted told me he would only be available in december. i don't get what you are fighting for? a slower, less resourceful people?
- Marshferm 1y agoWax fruit vs. creative design? We make neural-syntax animation pre-viz for a blockbuster series on streaming, and never have to touch slop. Hand drawn storyboards, Rhino, Maya and 3dMax, to blender to unreal and never veer automation. We can never let LLMs touch it because what we're making has never been done prior, the spaces are referential. And it never can reference space. What I've seen demo'd (and I've inspected closed models using our library of isovist level architech) is worthless compared to wetware.
- love2read 1y agois this ai generated? i literally don't know most of the words in this post...
- Marshferm 1y agoGenerated? It’s just beyond your stage of creativity. Nothing we get near is generated. The irony, work that exceeds Ai would appear to people trapped by it to be generated. What does that say about the state of thinking in engineers and business?