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Sometimes people take the time to read and understand something and conclude that this is the best way to express it, better than they themselves can paraphrase

by exe34 1y ago

Sometimes people take the time to read and understand something and conclude that this is the best way to express it, better than they themselves can paraphrase.

perching_aix 1y ago
And sometimes they just collect opinions and follow suit, instead of forming their own ones. How do you know which one happened here, are you a mind reader?
- coldtea 1y ago
  Do you have any opinions of your own instead of berating people with meta arguments and rudeness?
  - perching_aix 1y ago
    Yes.
- exe34 1y ago
  If you cared to find out, you could try asking questions about the views, instead of poisoning the well.
  - perching_aix 1y ago
    Sounds like a great way to get a whole sitemap for GNU's website! Not sure I'm interested indeed, just like you insinuate.
    - exe34 1y ago
      If you're not interested at all, why did you even join the conversation? Are you just lonely?
      - perching_aix 1y ago
        Could ask the same from you really, but then you followed me here out of spite from the other subthread to just loosely regurgitate another person's reply [0], along with your lackey [1], trying to make it a touch more hostile on the way, so I think I do know the answer to that one... > If you're not interested at all, why did you even join the conversation? Or was this a genuine question? I don't think you do those though. Are you then maybe getting tripped up on your own dumb headcanon? Cause honestly, given that this would be the third time in this thread that you're conjuring up a strawman and twisting words, you have to appreciate I have a hard time believing anything coming out of your mouth (keyboard?) at this point. It's almost as if there was a reason I went off about what I did, and it's coming back to bite you in the ass now... To you, is a suggestion for someone to explain their own thoughts in their own words, rather than link to someone else's, a sign of no interest at all? Did I really say that I wasn't interested in what their take was, or did I say that I wasn't interested in receiving another barrage of GNU links? Careful, the latter one doesn't even require thinking, only bare minimum intellectual honesty, seemingly your Achilles heel. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45679559 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45679559 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45679864 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45679864
        exe34 1y ago
        So when several people point out how you are wrong, you take it as a coordinated attack?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
  > How do you know which one happened here, are you a mind reader? If you admit that they could be doing one of two things ("And sometimes ...") but you assume it's actually one of them in particular ("I think they asked for your take, not GNU's."), then this question could similarly be asked of you.
  - perching_aix 1y ago
    Could be, although it's a bit harder justified. A bigger problem with my model is that it's a false dilemma. These are both just characterizations. Both can be true at the same time just fine, and so can neither. It even does my own sentiment poorly. My actual issue with this whole exchange was not that their thoughts are unoriginal (although I'd be surprised), but that this way of responding I find extremely lazy and disrespectful, as well as generally unreasonable. They were asked for their opinion. It doesn't have to be good, it doesn't have to be rigorous, it just has to be theirs. Linking out to some reading material and adding nothing else of substance fails even this most basic expectation. It's a discussion thread, not a newsletter. But then just like in the other subthread where the person above found me from, I'm sure they'd argue that this is just, like, my opinion. And that it sure is.

by exe34 1y ago

Sometimes people take the time to read and understand something and conclude that this is the best way to express it, better than they themselves can paraphrase.

perching_aix 1y ago

And sometimes they just collect opinions and follow suit, instead of forming their own ones. How do you know which one happened here, are you a mind reader?

coldtea 1y ago
Do you have any opinions of your own instead of berating people with meta arguments and rudeness?
- perching_aix 1y ago
  Yes.
exe34 1y ago
If you cared to find out, you could try asking questions about the views, instead of poisoning the well.
- perching_aix 1y ago
  Sounds like a great way to get a whole sitemap for GNU's website! Not sure I'm interested indeed, just like you insinuate.
  - exe34 1y ago
    If you're not interested at all, why did you even join the conversation? Are you just lonely?
    - perching_aix 1y ago
      Could ask the same from you really, but then you followed me here out of spite from the other subthread to just loosely regurgitate another person's reply [0], along with your lackey [1], trying to make it a touch more hostile on the way, so I think I do know the answer to that one... > If you're not interested at all, why did you even join the conversation? Or was this a genuine question? I don't think you do those though. Are you then maybe getting tripped up on your own dumb headcanon? Cause honestly, given that this would be the third time in this thread that you're conjuring up a strawman and twisting words, you have to appreciate I have a hard time believing anything coming out of your mouth (keyboard?) at this point. It's almost as if there was a reason I went off about what I did, and it's coming back to bite you in the ass now... To you, is a suggestion for someone to explain their own thoughts in their own words, rather than link to someone else's, a sign of no interest at all? Did I really say that I wasn't interested in what their take was, or did I say that I wasn't interested in receiving another barrage of GNU links? Careful, the latter one doesn't even require thinking, only bare minimum intellectual honesty, seemingly your Achilles heel. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45679559 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45679559 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45679864 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45679864
      - exe34 1y ago
        So when several people point out how you are wrong, you take it as a coordinated attack?
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
> How do you know which one happened here, are you a mind reader? If you admit that they could be doing one of two things ("And sometimes ...") but you assume it's actually one of them in particular ("I think they asked for your take, not GNU's."), then this question could similarly be asked of you.
- perching_aix 1y ago
  Could be, although it's a bit harder justified. A bigger problem with my model is that it's a false dilemma. These are both just characterizations. Both can be true at the same time just fine, and so can neither. It even does my own sentiment poorly. My actual issue with this whole exchange was not that their thoughts are unoriginal (although I'd be surprised), but that this way of responding I find extremely lazy and disrespectful, as well as generally unreasonable. They were asked for their opinion. It doesn't have to be good, it doesn't have to be rigorous, it just has to be theirs. Linking out to some reading material and adding nothing else of substance fails even this most basic expectation. It's a discussion thread, not a newsletter. But then just like in the other subthread where the person above found me from, I'm sure they'd argue that this is just, like, my opinion. And that it sure is.