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I don't understand the angle here? Go check out the cross country running team of your local high school. They will literally have to have carb loading partie
by taeric 1y ago
I don't understand the angle here? Go check out the cross country running team of your local high school. They will literally have to have carb loading parties for the kids so that they are able to do the run the next day. The article even largely acknowledges this with working with kids and exercise.
So if the myth is simply "we are fat because we don't exercise more", agreed. But the effectiveness of the new drugs is already enough to underline that point pretty heavily.
It seems that the idea really getting flirted with here is that the kind of exercise you have to do to lose weight is hard. And we seem to make it harder by loading it in such a way that people that do a crap job out there running think they "must not be a runner." Statistically, nobody is a runner on their first few years. It takes time. And is hard. Just like a lot of other skills.
This is true for the self control it takes to not lay in bed with your phone scrolling. Once you have built that habit, it is flat out hard to kick for a lot of us. It isn't that you are just missing that one trick to make it work. It is a type of hard work.
- watwut 1y agoMy thinking and experience went kind of the opposite way. We are focusing so much on making it effective and hard ... that we removed all pleasure from exercising and sport. Of course it takes a lot of self control to go do it, when the whole experience actually massively sux and no matter what you do, it is not enough. And of course then you will give up on that once you are under pressure or stressed or have a lot of work. The people who I know personally who move physically a lot ... like it. They need additional self control to skip the sport session and go clean the house. They either found activity that they fall in love with, the sport doubles as social outlet for them or they made it pleasant by tweaking how it is done. > Statistically, nobody is a runner on their first few years. It takes time. And is hard. It does not have to be. The first beginner period of a sport if normally the most pleasant one - you are getting quick improvements at first. Unless of course you go all hard to yourself and let all the motivation being eaten by guilt that you can run only for 4km instead of 15km yet. Or, you dont have to run which is indeed inherently boring for quite a lot of people. You can roller skate instead. You can go for very long walk spending 2h listening to podcasts and shows.
- taeric 1y agoMy experience is that liking something is basically unrelated to it being hard. Being good at it, on the other hand, requires putting in hard work. No matter what it is. Note that you can build a ramp up process such that you don't immediately punish yourself for not being good at something. Essentially the early levels of any video game. But, that is the point. Later levels are harder. By definition. But early levels are probably hard for beginners, as well. The challenge is part of the point. The exact same thing goes for the early periods of a sport. Just running across the field is surprisingly hard for beginners. In ways that you flat out don't remember once you are proficient at it.
- watwut 1y agoYou dont need to be good in sport to have health benefits out of it. Or to spend calories. If the goals are health and aesthetic, there is zero need to become actually good or competitive. Including as a beginner you domt have to push yourself uncomfortably hard unless ypu actually want to. Especially as a beginner, you will get improvements and benefit from just dabbling in it.
- taeric 1y agoAgreed. I was trying to emphasize the difficulty in starting, is all. And further agreed that you don't have to push to uncomfortably hard. I would emphasize that it is almost certainly some level of discomfort for everyone, though.