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> It's coming any day now! I'm loving this juxtaposition of companies hyping up imminent epoch-defining AGI, while simultaneously dedicating resources to build

> It's coming any day now! I'm loving this juxtaposition of companies hyping up imminent epoch-defining AGI, while simultaneously dedicating resources to building TikTok But Worse or adding erotica support to ChatGPT. Interesting priorities.

jacquesm 1y ago
> adding erotica support to ChatGPT They really need that business model.
- throwacct 1y ago
  I mean, it's a path to "profitability", isn't it?
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    Charging me for stuff I am not using is why I will sooner rather than later leave google. It's ridiculous how they tack on this non-feature and then charge you as if you're using it. For ChatGPT I have a lower bar because it is easier to avoid.
  - monkeynotes 1y ago
    Hardly, they are burning money with TikSlop, they don't even know how to monetize it, just YOLO'd the product to keep investors interested. Even the porn industry can't seem to monetize AI, so I doubt OpenAI who knows jack shit about this space will be able to. Fact is generative AI is stupidly expensive to run, and I can't see mass adoption at subscription prices that actually allow them to break even. I'm sure folks have seen the commentary on the cost of all this infrastructure. How can an LLM business model possibly pay for a nuclear power station, let alone the ongoing overheads of the rest of the infrastructure? The whole thing just seems like total fantasy. I don't even think they believe they are going to reach AGI, and even if they did, and if companies did start hiring AI agents instead of humans, then what? If consumers are out of work, who the hell is going to keep the economy going? I just don't understand how smart people think this is going to work out at all.
    - jacquesm 1y ago
      > I just don't understand how smart people think this is going to work out at all. The previous couple of crops of smart people grew up in a world that could still easily be improved, and they set about doing just that. The current crop of smart people grew up in a world with a very large number of people and they want a bigger slice of it. There are only a couple of solutions to that and it's pretty clear to me which way they've picked. They don't need to 'keep the economy running' for that much longer to get their way.
    - jpadkins 1y ago
      > If consumers are out of work, who the hell is going to keep the economy going? There is a whole field of research called post scarcity economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity tldr; it's not as bad as you think, but the transition is going to be bad (for some of us).
      - jacquesm 1y ago
        > for some of us I've read that before: “Many men of course became extremely rich, but this was perfectly natural and nothing to be ashamed of because no one was really poor – at least no one worth speaking of.”
        smcin 1y ago
        Douglas Adams, The Ultimate Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, about the custom planet industry https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/437536-many-men-of-course-became-extremely-rich-but-this-was https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/437536-many-men-of-course-b...
      - monkeynotes 1y ago
        The planet has finite resources, least alone land. And then there is human psychology for hoarding resources.
      - danaris 1y ago
        It can only be "not as bad as you think" if the people currently at the top don't continue to hoard all the gains. If the current system is maintained—the one where if you don't work, you don't earn money, and thus you can't pay for food, shelter, clothing, etc—then it doesn't matter how abundant our stuff is; most people won't have any access to it. In order for society to reap the benefits of post-scarcity, we must destroy the idea that the people at the top of the corporate pyramid deserve astronomically more money than the people actually doing the work.
- mrguyorama 1y ago
  How does ChatGPT intend to escape the ire of the christian fundamentalists that have been killing porn on the internet for the past decade?
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    They're the biggest customers.
SoftTalker 1y ago
> ... adding erotica support to ChatGPT. Well, all the people with no jobs are going to need something to fill their time.
- bravetraveler 1y ago
  The bastards are playing both sides! Employees are expected to be So Enamored that we act like we have an ownership stake. Imagine the type of relationships that working ~18 hour days 6 times a week might offer! Generative Porn would be a welcome escape, probably.
SecretDreams 1y ago
If the AGI is anything like its creators, it'll probably also enjoy obscure erotica, to be fair.
hinkley 1y ago
When they came for AO3, I said nothing…

jacquesm 1y ago

> adding erotica support to ChatGPT They really need that business model.

throwacct 1y ago
I mean, it's a path to "profitability", isn't it?
- jacquesm 1y ago
  Charging me for stuff I am not using is why I will sooner rather than later leave google. It's ridiculous how they tack on this non-feature and then charge you as if you're using it. For ChatGPT I have a lower bar because it is easier to avoid.
- monkeynotes 1y ago
  Hardly, they are burning money with TikSlop, they don't even know how to monetize it, just YOLO'd the product to keep investors interested. Even the porn industry can't seem to monetize AI, so I doubt OpenAI who knows jack shit about this space will be able to. Fact is generative AI is stupidly expensive to run, and I can't see mass adoption at subscription prices that actually allow them to break even. I'm sure folks have seen the commentary on the cost of all this infrastructure. How can an LLM business model possibly pay for a nuclear power station, let alone the ongoing overheads of the rest of the infrastructure? The whole thing just seems like total fantasy. I don't even think they believe they are going to reach AGI, and even if they did, and if companies did start hiring AI agents instead of humans, then what? If consumers are out of work, who the hell is going to keep the economy going? I just don't understand how smart people think this is going to work out at all.
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    > I just don't understand how smart people think this is going to work out at all. The previous couple of crops of smart people grew up in a world that could still easily be improved, and they set about doing just that. The current crop of smart people grew up in a world with a very large number of people and they want a bigger slice of it. There are only a couple of solutions to that and it's pretty clear to me which way they've picked. They don't need to 'keep the economy running' for that much longer to get their way.
  - jpadkins 1y ago
    > If consumers are out of work, who the hell is going to keep the economy going? There is a whole field of research called post scarcity economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity tldr; it's not as bad as you think, but the transition is going to be bad (for some of us).
    - jacquesm 1y ago
      > for some of us I've read that before: “Many men of course became extremely rich, but this was perfectly natural and nothing to be ashamed of because no one was really poor – at least no one worth speaking of.”
      - smcin 1y ago
        Douglas Adams, The Ultimate Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, about the custom planet industry https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/437536-many-men-of-course-became-extremely-rich-but-this-was https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/437536-many-men-of-course-b...
    - monkeynotes 1y ago
      The planet has finite resources, least alone land. And then there is human psychology for hoarding resources.
    - danaris 1y ago
      It can only be "not as bad as you think" if the people currently at the top don't continue to hoard all the gains. If the current system is maintained—the one where if you don't work, you don't earn money, and thus you can't pay for food, shelter, clothing, etc—then it doesn't matter how abundant our stuff is; most people won't have any access to it. In order for society to reap the benefits of post-scarcity, we must destroy the idea that the people at the top of the corporate pyramid deserve astronomically more money than the people actually doing the work.
mrguyorama 1y ago
How does ChatGPT intend to escape the ire of the christian fundamentalists that have been killing porn on the internet for the past decade?
- jacquesm 1y ago
  They're the biggest customers.

SoftTalker 1y ago

> ... adding erotica support to ChatGPT. Well, all the people with no jobs are going to need something to fill their time.

bravetraveler 1y ago
The bastards are playing both sides! Employees are expected to be So Enamored that we act like we have an ownership stake. Imagine the type of relationships that working ~18 hour days 6 times a week might offer! Generative Porn would be a welcome escape, probably.

SecretDreams 1y ago

If the AGI is anything like its creators, it'll probably also enjoy obscure erotica, to be fair.

hinkley 1y ago

When they came for AO3, I said nothing…