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Fair point but Magnus wasn't born Magnus. He became world champion partly by doing what the article describes: using engines for post-game analysis. A 1200-rate

by v3am 11mo ago

Fair point but Magnus wasn't born Magnus. He became world champion partly by doing what the article describes: using engines for post-game analysis. A 1200-rated chess player who reviews their games with an engine improves faster than one who doesn't.

Mistletoe 11mo ago
If I'm understanding this right his ELO was 2064 in 2001 when he was 11. I don't think he was using engines for post-game analysis at 11 or maybe he was, but he was certainly born better at chess than most people. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/1503014/chart https://ratings.fide.com/profile/1503014/chart I love the original article. Hey guys you just have to be the best programmer in the world to not be replaced by AI!
- CaptainOfCoit 11mo ago
  > Carlsen showed an aptitude for intellectual challenges at a young age. At two years, he could solve 50-piece jigsaw puzzles; at four, he enjoyed assembling Lego sets with instructions intended for children aged 10–14. His father, a keen amateur chess player, taught him to play at the age of five, although he initially showed little interest in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen#Childhood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen#Childhood I don't know you could go as far to say he was born better at chess, but he certainly seemed to be smart early on, and with his father's influence and with a supporting environment that smarts got aimed at chess.
  - jacquesm 11mo ago
    Some people have that talent, others do not. And then those who do have that talent and put in the hours studying theory can go very far without ever looking at a computer to help them with analysis. Carlsen is that once-per-generation exception, someone who has a talent that somehow allows him to see a little further down the game tree than others. I grew up next to someone who was nearly that good, but there are so many people in that bracket that outside of NL he's not very well known. The distribution of skill at the high end of chess is highly non-linear.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 11mo ago
    I mean, I could build any lego at age 4, that didn't make me smart, just obsessed with lego, lol
    - CaptainOfCoit 11mo ago
      I don't think that particular snippet of text is supposed to highlight how smart Magnus is because of being able to build LEGO at 4, but rather shows the kind of environment he grew up with to foster what he is today.
whyenot 11mo ago
He was a grandmaster at age 13. In 2003.

by v3am 11mo ago

Mistletoe 11mo ago

If I'm understanding this right his ELO was 2064 in 2001 when he was 11. I don't think he was using engines for post-game analysis at 11 or maybe he was, but he was certainly born better at chess than most people. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/1503014/chart https://ratings.fide.com/profile/1503014/chart I love the original article. Hey guys you just have to be the best programmer in the world to not be replaced by AI!

CaptainOfCoit 11mo ago
> Carlsen showed an aptitude for intellectual challenges at a young age. At two years, he could solve 50-piece jigsaw puzzles; at four, he enjoyed assembling Lego sets with instructions intended for children aged 10–14. His father, a keen amateur chess player, taught him to play at the age of five, although he initially showed little interest in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen#Childhood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen#Childhood I don't know you could go as far to say he was born better at chess, but he certainly seemed to be smart early on, and with his father's influence and with a supporting environment that smarts got aimed at chess.
- jacquesm 11mo ago
  Some people have that talent, others do not. And then those who do have that talent and put in the hours studying theory can go very far without ever looking at a computer to help them with analysis. Carlsen is that once-per-generation exception, someone who has a talent that somehow allows him to see a little further down the game tree than others. I grew up next to someone who was nearly that good, but there are so many people in that bracket that outside of NL he's not very well known. The distribution of skill at the high end of chess is highly non-linear.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 11mo ago
  I mean, I could build any lego at age 4, that didn't make me smart, just obsessed with lego, lol
  - CaptainOfCoit 11mo ago
    I don't think that particular snippet of text is supposed to highlight how smart Magnus is because of being able to build LEGO at 4, but rather shows the kind of environment he grew up with to foster what he is today.

whyenot 11mo ago

He was a grandmaster at age 13. In 2003.