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No, I'm not going to do those things. I find extreme utility in applications that I can do with an LLM in an air-gapped environment. I will fight and die on th
by Der_Einzige 1y ago
No, I'm not going to do those things. I find extreme utility in applications that I can do with an LLM in an air-gapped environment.
I will fight and die on the hill that "LLMs don't need the internet to be useful"
- simonw 1y agoYeah, that's fair. A good LLM (gpt-oss-20b, even some of the smaller Qwens) can be entirely useful offline. I've got good results from Mistral Small 3.2 offline on a flight helping write Python and JavaScript, for example. Having Claude Code able to try out JSON APIs and pip install extra packages is a huge upgrade from that though!
- furyofantares 1y agoIs anyone fighting you on that hill? Someone who finds it useful to have a local llm ingest internet content is not contrary to you finding uses that don't.
- kgwgk 1y ago> Local LLMs may not be exposed to the internet, but if you want them to do something useful you're likely going to hook them up to an internet-accessing harness such as OpenCode or Claude Code or Codex CLI. is not "someone finding useful to have a local llm ingest internet content" - it was someone suggesting that nothing useful can be done without internet access.
- simonw 1y agoYeah, I retracted my statement that they can't do anything useful without the internet here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45670828 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45670828
- furyofantares 1y agoI guess I don't read that how you do. It says you're likely to do that, which I take to mean that's a majority use case, not that it's the only use case.
- kgwgk 1y agoIt also said "but" and "if you want them to do something useful" which made the "likely" sound much less innocent.