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I assume they let them fly at night and they have some form of GPS and way to communicate the data positions. The pickup team maybe just needs to shoot them dow

I assume they let them fly at night and they have some form of GPS and way to communicate the data positions. The pickup team maybe just needs to shoot them down on top of a inhabited area.

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dylan604 1y ago
Shooting them down with what? These things will fly at high altitudes. How do you find them at that altitude in the dark to shoot with what, a rifle? US military took more than one missile to shoot down the very much larger Chinese balloon. It's not as simple as you might be thinking
- stickfigure 1y ago
  > These things will fly at high altitudes. That seems improbable? Lithuania is only a couple hundred miles across and these balloons are completely at the mercy of wind. I would expect the balloon owners want a quick hop over border security. Chasing them down over hundreds of miles of potentially private property sounds like more trouble than it would be worth.
  - kragen 1y ago
    Helium or hydrogen balloons are easier to fly at higb altitudes, but you might be right that shorter hops would be more controllable.
    - dylan604 1y ago
      What is shorter hops in this sense to you? If you make some sort of weather balloon where the balloon never bursts, yes, they will travel very far. If you use a cheaper balloon that does burst, they don't travel down range very far in comparison. As I posted previously, depending on the balloon/parachute/payload, our little "experiment" went just over 100+ miles. That seems fairly acceptable. You could start 50 miles away from the border, and the recovery team would also be 50 miles away from the border. That's a pretty good buffer from any security teams working border crossings.
      - kragen 1y ago
        Shorter hops as in tens of kilometers rather than thousands. I think you can just use mylar, but maybe you'd need a net over it?
LorenPechtel 1y ago
Hot air. They'll fall of their own accord once the fuel is gone. Might not even use fuel, just a big bag you inflate with hot air and it stays aloft long enough.
- giorgioz 1y ago
  You are right this would be the easier, doesn't require helium, solves the problem of taking them down.
hadlock 1y ago
Just guessing, but it seems like you could duct tape a phone with a data plan and have it email you it's gps coordinates every 15 min under 10,000ft and every 5 min under 500 ft, or whatever is reasonable. I bet 80% of them land within reach of one of those extendable tree limb cutters, let them drop to the ground and drive off; and the other 20% are merely cost of doing business.

I assume they let them fly at night and they have some form of GPS and way to communicate the data positions. The pickup team maybe just needs to shoot them down on top of a inhabited area.

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dylan604 1y ago

Shooting them down with what? These things will fly at high altitudes. How do you find them at that altitude in the dark to shoot with what, a rifle? US military took more than one missile to shoot down the very much larger Chinese balloon. It's not as simple as you might be thinking

stickfigure 1y ago
> These things will fly at high altitudes. That seems improbable? Lithuania is only a couple hundred miles across and these balloons are completely at the mercy of wind. I would expect the balloon owners want a quick hop over border security. Chasing them down over hundreds of miles of potentially private property sounds like more trouble than it would be worth.
- kragen 1y ago
  Helium or hydrogen balloons are easier to fly at higb altitudes, but you might be right that shorter hops would be more controllable.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    What is shorter hops in this sense to you? If you make some sort of weather balloon where the balloon never bursts, yes, they will travel very far. If you use a cheaper balloon that does burst, they don't travel down range very far in comparison. As I posted previously, depending on the balloon/parachute/payload, our little "experiment" went just over 100+ miles. That seems fairly acceptable. You could start 50 miles away from the border, and the recovery team would also be 50 miles away from the border. That's a pretty good buffer from any security teams working border crossings.
    - kragen 1y ago
      Shorter hops as in tens of kilometers rather than thousands. I think you can just use mylar, but maybe you'd need a net over it?

LorenPechtel 1y ago

Hot air. They'll fall of their own accord once the fuel is gone. Might not even use fuel, just a big bag you inflate with hot air and it stays aloft long enough.

giorgioz 1y ago
You are right this would be the easier, doesn't require helium, solves the problem of taking them down.

hadlock 1y ago

Just guessing, but it seems like you could duct tape a phone with a data plan and have it email you it's gps coordinates every 15 min under 10,000ft and every 5 min under 500 ft, or whatever is reasonable. I bet 80% of them land within reach of one of those extendable tree limb cutters, let them drop to the ground and drive off; and the other 20% are merely cost of doing business.