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It's back to this modern business problem: shareholders demand multiple revenue streams now. You can't just sell food, now you also have to surveil your custome

It's back to this modern business problem: shareholders demand multiple revenue streams now. You can't just sell food, now you also have to surveil your customers and sell their data, show them ads, and get them into a subscription.

SirFatty 1y ago
"show them ads" Gas station at 6a, nothing like blaring ads across 20 pumps. What a time to be alive!
- scruple 1y ago
  Second button from the top on the right shuts most of those things up in my experience. If not hit every button, usually one of them will work.
  - SirFatty 1y ago
    Nice! I'll give it a go next time. Thanks for that. edit: speedway has gone touchscreen, so I wonder if there are ghost buttons then?
  - NietzscheanNull 1y ago
    Unfortunately, my local stations are deep enough into the Enshittification Cycle™ that the formerly-functional pump mute buttons have all been disabled. That seems to be the trend among several of the newer gas stations I've visited lately. That's the line which, when crossed, I immediately boycott and use another gas station indefinitely, but I get the feeling that it's only a matter of time before they all follow suit. But surely, “all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds” that our late-stage capitalism has so benevolently bequeathed us.
- sph 1y ago
  Can you explain this one for the rest of the world? You guys have ads at petrol stations?
  - CodeMage 1y ago
    Yes. Most gas stations in the US are self-serve, with screens and buttons next to them. Some are even switching to touch screens. And now some of those screens display ads while you're fueling your car. Hell, some even have sound and it's set at a rather obnoxious volume.
emchammer 1y ago
And sell them a credit card, but if you have any questions about that credit card, call the issuing bank because it’s not their problem.
swed420 1y ago
Would it work if we created a crowdsourced vision for each category of product/service, so that any given business would be incentivized to meet these requirements to be able to advertise a product or store is Anti-Enshitified Compliant™? No more "savey-save fcky-fck" cards/clubs as Bill Burr used to joke. No more apps required just to get a fair price. Get the easily transferable PFAS/PFOA contaminants off of my receipts and food wrappers. The sky is the limit for what we could demand. Companies/shareholders could choose to comply or not.
invalidOrTaken 1y ago
I don't think shareholders really demand anything, most of the time. So much of the market is just passive 401k buckets. This feels like a pathology of board/C-suite culture, something that they feel like they "have to" do, rather than actual angry letters from Joe Shareholder in Des Moines demanding more user data farming.
- pona-a 1y ago
  At least in the case of United, we did see shareholders write angry letters when they temporarily became slightly less aggressive denying customers coverage. If that's the level of care for matters of life and death, why wouldn't it generalize to surveillance?
krapp 1y ago
To be fair, I think McDonald's makes more money on real estate (renting franchise locations) than they do selling food, and the income from data mining customers would probably be a pittance in comparison to both. Not that I'd put it past them, but I assume the entire point of the Monopoly campaign is advertising, playing on the nostalgia for the original, and that the app is just there because that's what you do now, you just have an app.

SirFatty 1y ago

"show them ads" Gas station at 6a, nothing like blaring ads across 20 pumps. What a time to be alive!

scruple 1y ago
Second button from the top on the right shuts most of those things up in my experience. If not hit every button, usually one of them will work.
- SirFatty 1y ago
  Nice! I'll give it a go next time. Thanks for that. edit: speedway has gone touchscreen, so I wonder if there are ghost buttons then?
- NietzscheanNull 1y ago
  Unfortunately, my local stations are deep enough into the Enshittification Cycle™ that the formerly-functional pump mute buttons have all been disabled. That seems to be the trend among several of the newer gas stations I've visited lately. That's the line which, when crossed, I immediately boycott and use another gas station indefinitely, but I get the feeling that it's only a matter of time before they all follow suit. But surely, “all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds” that our late-stage capitalism has so benevolently bequeathed us.
sph 1y ago
Can you explain this one for the rest of the world? You guys have ads at petrol stations?
- CodeMage 1y ago
  Yes. Most gas stations in the US are self-serve, with screens and buttons next to them. Some are even switching to touch screens. And now some of those screens display ads while you're fueling your car. Hell, some even have sound and it's set at a rather obnoxious volume.

emchammer 1y ago

And sell them a credit card, but if you have any questions about that credit card, call the issuing bank because it’s not their problem.

swed420 1y ago

Would it work if we created a crowdsourced vision for each category of product/service, so that any given business would be incentivized to meet these requirements to be able to advertise a product or store is Anti-Enshitified Compliant™? No more "savey-save fcky-fck" cards/clubs as Bill Burr used to joke. No more apps required just to get a fair price. Get the easily transferable PFAS/PFOA contaminants off of my receipts and food wrappers. The sky is the limit for what we could demand. Companies/shareholders could choose to comply or not.

invalidOrTaken 1y ago

I don't think shareholders really demand anything, most of the time. So much of the market is just passive 401k buckets. This feels like a pathology of board/C-suite culture, something that they feel like they "have to" do, rather than actual angry letters from Joe Shareholder in Des Moines demanding more user data farming.

pona-a 1y ago
At least in the case of United, we did see shareholders write angry letters when they temporarily became slightly less aggressive denying customers coverage. If that's the level of care for matters of life and death, why wouldn't it generalize to surveillance?

krapp 1y ago

To be fair, I think McDonald's makes more money on real estate (renting franchise locations) than they do selling food, and the income from data mining customers would probably be a pittance in comparison to both. Not that I'd put it past them, but I assume the entire point of the Monopoly campaign is advertising, playing on the nostalgia for the original, and that the app is just there because that's what you do now, you just have an app.