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Not a radical idea. The EU is already working on it. > […] the Commission is pondering how to tweak the rules to include more exceptions or make sure users can

• dgfitz 1y ago
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  • yetihehe 1y ago
    The alternative is that they tweak the laws without much thought...
    • dgfitz 1y ago
      Isn’t that the current status quo?
      • lukeschlather 1y ago
        The GDPR has over 100k words, and those words are certainly less than 0.01% of the thought that has gone into this problem.
    • immibis 1y ago
      Agile laws might not be so terrible.
      • JadeNB 1y ago
        Counteropinion: agile laws would be absolutely terrible. Either people wouldn't take them seriously because they're going to change in a few minutes anyway, or people would take them seriously and be bound by law by the equivalent of late-night untested code that seemed like it should work.
        • _carbyau_ 1y ago
          Charitable interpretation of their comment: Law is implemented and then rapidly improved upon. But yes, I think your take is more realistic as any measure that allows rapid changes also allows willful politics to rapidly make a mess.
          • account42 1y ago
            Imagine being charged for something that you didn't yet know was a crime because you didn't watch the morning news.
• matheusmoreira 1y ago
  DNT header already does this. Explicit denial of consent. Reaches their servers before everything else so they have no excuse and zero room for maneuvering. Now the EU just needs to turn it into an actual liability for corporations. Otherwise it will remain as an additional bit of entropy for tracking.
  • briandear 1y ago
    It’s not just corporations. Look how much tracking nonsense goes into a recipe blog.
    • account42 1y ago
      Recipe blogs are mostly "corporations" even if small ones. Most things you find at the top of Google search results aren't just enthusiastic individuals sharing their personal ideas with you but businesses who work hard to make sure you go to their websites rather than better ones.
  • rcxdude 1y ago
    The fact that it was turned on by default in edge really hurt it as an argument under these laws, because it then turned into a 'well we don't know the user actually selected this' thing. Making it explicitly have the force of law regardless would still be a good thing, though.
    • throw_a_grenade 1y ago
      No, this wrong. The law says that by default you can't process personal data, unless the user gave consent. That setting matched both the expectation of users and the default as specified by the law. The story that advertisers don't know what users selected and that somehow allows them to track the user is disingenous.
      • rcxdude 1y ago
        It doesn't allow them to track, but it does allow them to more convincingly argue that they can nag them about it (I think some regulators in some EU countries have rejected this, but I don't think this is universal). i.e. it makes it ineffective as a means of stopping the annoying pop-ups. Because the companies are basically belligerent about it there needs to be a clear declaration of 'if this header is set you may not track _and_ you may not bug the user about it'
• WeZzyNL 1y ago
  The EU is already working on it? You have a strange definition of "already" ;)