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Difficult to say. Even if indeed guilty, things like jailing him "provisionally" despite his appeal are discretionary decisions of the court so also open to al

Difficult to say. Even if indeed guilty, things like jailing him "provisionally" despite his appeal are discretionary decisions of the court so also open to all interpretations despite the very black and white comments here...

kergonath 1y ago
> Difficult to say. It really is not. Nobody is benefitting from this politically, and the facts are difficult to ignore. > jailing him "provisionally" despite his appeal are discretionary decisions of the court so also open to all interpretations depiste the very black and white comments her It’s just how it’s done in cases like this, and he can thank himself for having normalised it.
motorest 1y ago
> Even if indeed guilty, things like jailing him "provisionally" despite his appeal are discretionary decisions of the court so also open to all interpretations depiste the very black and white comments here... I read it the other way around. You're arguing for preferencial treatment on the ground that any inconvenience could be misconstrued as politically motivated. In the meantime you're seeing a case involving organized crime, lieutenants caught red-handed, and charges extended to the leader of the criminal enterprise. You're not seeing any doubt being raised on the charges, only on whether the politician could have political opponents.
- guizmo 1y ago
  Not jailing him before the appeal would not be preferential treatment for someone without risk of re-offense or flight.
thrance 1y ago
Not difficult at all. Tens to hundreds of judges had a say on his case over the many years he's been on trial. What are the chances he only got left-wing judges? This muddying of the waters is exactly how you get to Trumpism and a blatant shamelessness of politicians in the face of obvious corruption.
greatgib 1y ago
Just to be clear, here the law is just respected. He was the one that pushed the regulations for that. It was a big part of his political speech to say that law should be hard, rules should be enforced for people in his situation to do mandatory time with a very strict justice. But now he is also the subject of his own policies and it does not like that. Looks like justice is ok just when it is not affecting him personally. His attitude is totally disgusting and indecent.

kergonath 1y ago

> Difficult to say. It really is not. Nobody is benefitting from this politically, and the facts are difficult to ignore. > jailing him "provisionally" despite his appeal are discretionary decisions of the court so also open to all interpretations depiste the very black and white comments her It’s just how it’s done in cases like this, and he can thank himself for having normalised it.

motorest 1y ago

> Even if indeed guilty, things like jailing him "provisionally" despite his appeal are discretionary decisions of the court so also open to all interpretations depiste the very black and white comments here... I read it the other way around. You're arguing for preferencial treatment on the ground that any inconvenience could be misconstrued as politically motivated. In the meantime you're seeing a case involving organized crime, lieutenants caught red-handed, and charges extended to the leader of the criminal enterprise. You're not seeing any doubt being raised on the charges, only on whether the politician could have political opponents.

guizmo 1y ago
Not jailing him before the appeal would not be preferential treatment for someone without risk of re-offense or flight.

thrance 1y ago

Not difficult at all. Tens to hundreds of judges had a say on his case over the many years he's been on trial. What are the chances he only got left-wing judges? This muddying of the waters is exactly how you get to Trumpism and a blatant shamelessness of politicians in the face of obvious corruption.

greatgib 1y ago

Just to be clear, here the law is just respected. He was the one that pushed the regulations for that. It was a big part of his political speech to say that law should be hard, rules should be enforced for people in his situation to do mandatory time with a very strict justice. But now he is also the subject of his own policies and it does not like that. Looks like justice is ok just when it is not affecting him personally. His attitude is totally disgusting and indecent.