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Is the read-between-the-lines part here that Elon / SpaceX is too aligned with the USA government and their aspirations to take over Greenland to be trusted wit

Is the read-between-the-lines part here that Elon / SpaceX is too aligned with the USA government and their aspirations to take over Greenland to be trusted with their comms infra?

nolok 1y ago
That's clearly what the author of that article want to say, but the truth is that Greenland has a centralized access (people go through the national provider to get access, and said provider uses others' solutions in the backend), while Starlink offer was for a direct to consumer system; they were simply not answering to the criterias requested.
- simondotau 1y ago
  This is pretty much exactly correct. This comment should be pinned to the top of this whole thread, because it does nobody any good when "alternative facts" are valued more highly than a boring truth.
  - mlrtime 1y ago
    But then this article would be buried and the gears of the internet wouldn't continue to spin. We all know at this point that rage == clicks == ad revenue.
    - lukan 1y ago
      Except this is one of the few sites not operating by this principle. (The only ads here are YC startup job offers)
      - mlrtime 1y ago
        It still operates, just stops at the ads=money part.
        1oooqooq 1y ago
        not really. this still push ads. they are just limited to "native ads format" (i.e. look like content to evade ad blockers) and only advertise yc companies and jobs.
- 310260 1y ago
  The "uses others solutions" bit is for satellite alone when it comes to Tusass. They own and run all other types of telecom service in Greenland whether fiber, cellular, microwave, or marine radio.
- motorest 1y ago
  > (...) while Starlink (...) were simply not answering to the criterias requested. If you read the article, that's not exactly the arguments pointed out by neither Tusass nor Greenland's politicians. Cited from the article: > Binzer said it was not about which company was better, but about trust and long-term cooperation. Tusass already works with Eutelsat and knows their systems well. > Some Greenlandic politicians have warned that the country must keep control of its telecom infrastructure. > They fear that opening the market to foreign providers could threaten national security. For now, Tusass remains the sole provider of telecommunications in Greenland. The citations from the article are clear on how national security concerns were a key argument to not go with Starlink.
CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
I mean, I think that's obvious. Ukraine obviously wouldn't contract anything essential from Russia, same goes for Denmark/Greenland and the US. You don't threaten countries you want to do business with. It's also not very "between the lines" at all, the article finishes with: > Binzer said the company will keep an open mind for future partnerships, but the priority remains clear. Greenland’s communication systems must stay under Greenlandic control. Sovereignty is more important than ever, and governments are catching up to this fact.
- chrisco255 1y ago
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  - azernik 1y ago
    An "offer" that included an explicit threat of military force if it wasn't accepted. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/04/world/greenland-annexation-threat-trump-nbc-interview-intl-hnk https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/04/world/greenland-annexatio...
    - chrisco255 1y ago
      [flagged]
      - azernik 1y ago
        That is not what "military action" means.
      - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
        > was never a threat > it wasnt a threat of force How are you not seeing yourself moving the goal post here?
        mlrtime 1y ago
        Because they were never moved. What action has taken place? This is 100% anxiety.
nurbel 1y ago
That's quite explicit in the last section of the article, ending with `Greenland’s communication systems must stay under Greenlandic control.`
tessierashpool9 1y ago
aren't the Greenlanders rather open minded about that acquisition? Denmark didn't treat them particularly good.
- foofoo12 1y ago
  Totally. It's the same as how people feel about Canada taking over the US. The current admin is such an abomination it would be best that Canada takes control. They are very nice people. Nicest ones some would say. Imagine how nice it would be to have some stability again. All the Americans I've spoken to agree on it.
  - zitsarethecure 1y ago
    Many people are saying it. Unfortunately the small minority of nasty people opposed to it are using violence to stifle free debate.
- saubeidl 1y ago
  They're not. https://www.reuters.com/world/poll-shows-85-greenlanders-do-not-want-be-part-us-2025-01-29/ https://www.reuters.com/world/poll-shows-85-greenlanders-do-...
- sehansen 1y ago
  No, Greenlanders are working towards independence and gaining independence from the US seems much less likely than from Denmark. Additionally Greenlanders aren't looking with admiration at how the US has treated other indigenous peoples.
  - tessierashpool9 1y ago
    Are you a Greenlander? Or are you from mainland Denmark?
    - sehansen 1y ago
      I am from mainland Denmark, but have visited Greenland and a have number of native Greenlander friends.
bborud 1y ago
You do not want to depend on infrastructure that might cease to work because the people running the infrastructure behave in an erratic, random and impulsive manner. This is a bigger risk than alignment with the policies of any government.

Is the read-between-the-lines part here that Elon / SpaceX is too aligned with the USA government and their aspirations to take over Greenland to be trusted with their comms infra?

nolok 1y ago

That's clearly what the author of that article want to say, but the truth is that Greenland has a centralized access (people go through the national provider to get access, and said provider uses others' solutions in the backend), while Starlink offer was for a direct to consumer system; they were simply not answering to the criterias requested.

simondotau 1y ago
This is pretty much exactly correct. This comment should be pinned to the top of this whole thread, because it does nobody any good when "alternative facts" are valued more highly than a boring truth.
- mlrtime 1y ago
  But then this article would be buried and the gears of the internet wouldn't continue to spin. We all know at this point that rage == clicks == ad revenue.
  - lukan 1y ago
    Except this is one of the few sites not operating by this principle. (The only ads here are YC startup job offers)
    - mlrtime 1y ago
      It still operates, just stops at the ads=money part.
      - 1oooqooq 1y ago
        not really. this still push ads. they are just limited to "native ads format" (i.e. look like content to evade ad blockers) and only advertise yc companies and jobs.
310260 1y ago
The "uses others solutions" bit is for satellite alone when it comes to Tusass. They own and run all other types of telecom service in Greenland whether fiber, cellular, microwave, or marine radio.
motorest 1y ago
> (...) while Starlink (...) were simply not answering to the criterias requested. If you read the article, that's not exactly the arguments pointed out by neither Tusass nor Greenland's politicians. Cited from the article: > Binzer said it was not about which company was better, but about trust and long-term cooperation. Tusass already works with Eutelsat and knows their systems well. > Some Greenlandic politicians have warned that the country must keep control of its telecom infrastructure. > They fear that opening the market to foreign providers could threaten national security. For now, Tusass remains the sole provider of telecommunications in Greenland. The citations from the article are clear on how national security concerns were a key argument to not go with Starlink.

CaptainOfCoit 1y ago

I mean, I think that's obvious. Ukraine obviously wouldn't contract anything essential from Russia, same goes for Denmark/Greenland and the US. You don't threaten countries you want to do business with. It's also not very "between the lines" at all, the article finishes with: > Binzer said the company will keep an open mind for future partnerships, but the priority remains clear. Greenland’s communication systems must stay under Greenlandic control. Sovereignty is more important than ever, and governments are catching up to this fact.

chrisco255 1y ago
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- azernik 1y ago
  An "offer" that included an explicit threat of military force if it wasn't accepted. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/04/world/greenland-annexation-threat-trump-nbc-interview-intl-hnk https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/04/world/greenland-annexatio...
  - chrisco255 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - azernik 1y ago
      That is not what "military action" means.
    - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
      > was never a threat > it wasnt a threat of force How are you not seeing yourself moving the goal post here?
      - mlrtime 1y ago
        Because they were never moved. What action has taken place? This is 100% anxiety.

nurbel 1y ago

That's quite explicit in the last section of the article, ending with `Greenland’s communication systems must stay under Greenlandic control.`

tessierashpool9 1y ago

aren't the Greenlanders rather open minded about that acquisition? Denmark didn't treat them particularly good.

foofoo12 1y ago
Totally. It's the same as how people feel about Canada taking over the US. The current admin is such an abomination it would be best that Canada takes control. They are very nice people. Nicest ones some would say. Imagine how nice it would be to have some stability again. All the Americans I've spoken to agree on it.
- zitsarethecure 1y ago
  Many people are saying it. Unfortunately the small minority of nasty people opposed to it are using violence to stifle free debate.
saubeidl 1y ago
They're not. https://www.reuters.com/world/poll-shows-85-greenlanders-do-not-want-be-part-us-2025-01-29/ https://www.reuters.com/world/poll-shows-85-greenlanders-do-...
sehansen 1y ago
No, Greenlanders are working towards independence and gaining independence from the US seems much less likely than from Denmark. Additionally Greenlanders aren't looking with admiration at how the US has treated other indigenous peoples.
- tessierashpool9 1y ago
  Are you a Greenlander? Or are you from mainland Denmark?
  - sehansen 1y ago
    I am from mainland Denmark, but have visited Greenland and a have number of native Greenlander friends.

bborud 1y ago

You do not want to depend on infrastructure that might cease to work because the people running the infrastructure behave in an erratic, random and impulsive manner. This is a bigger risk than alignment with the policies of any government.