2 ms·
I'm very curious what the method they used to attribute this to the advice? I ask as I swear I saw something around that timeline talking about "trans fats" an
by taeric 1y ago
I'm very curious what the method they used to attribute this to the advice? I ask as I swear I saw something around that timeline talking about "trans fats" and how they were a possible culprit in a ton of nutrition related woes. Notably, in 2015 was when it was removed from the "safe" list and it was on the way out during this time.
It sucks, as I can't find whatever paper I thought I read that implicated trans fats in allergies. Searching "trans fats allergies" shows several. I'm assuming it was one of the main results.
So my question is largely, why would it be more likely that the advice is why allergies reduced? Seems if there was evidence that trans fats were leading to increased allergies, that removing them would be by far the bigger driver?
- adrr 1y agoIsrael introduces peanuts early on in life and they have very low peanut allergies. Few studies on it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19000582/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19000582/
- taeric 1y agoRight, I knew of those studies at the time. I also should add that I don't expect this has no impact on rates. My question is why I wouldn't expect the removal of trans fats to be more impactful? It would be one thing if there was no known link between the two. But it was literally a time when people were not being paranoid when they cautioned to avoid a single ingredient on foods that you buy. They were terrible for you and there is a reason they were eradicated from all food by 2015.
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- hinkley 1y agoI have a vague but possibly false recollection that someone noticed that mothers who ate peanuts while breastfeeding had lower incidence of peanut allergies in the child. And they started pulling on that thread.
- taeric 1y agoI should be clear that I expect exposure to something will build up some resilience to it. You see very similar with milk, if I'm not mistaken. So, I wouldn't expect that this would have no impact. I just question any improvements in the 2008-2015 timeline that doesn't acknowledge how much progress we got from removing trans fats.
- hinkley 1y agoTrans fats are as bad or worse than saturated fats, but I’d be very surprised if they had anything to do with childhood food allergies. Some ethnic food uses raw peanut oil but it’s mostly disappeared from processed food. I remember that being discussed when I was a child, but cannot recall if it was peanut oil or hydrogenated peanut oil. Hydrogenated vegetable oil is unsaturated fat that we saturated via hydrogen ions. It can sub in for butter and lard in some recipes and we have vats of highly processed corn and soy owned by people who pay food “scientists” to invent needs for their surplus of product. Have been since practically the end of WWII. There are now two snack aisles at my grocery store. That’s changed in the last twenty years, and so has obesity. 80% of that is highly, highly processed, hyperpalatable food. But it turned out that margarine is objectively worse for you than butter. But cheap butter can have its own food allergy problems. IIRC Holstein cow milk has more allergens in it than older milk cow breeds and those are everywhere.
- taeric 1y agoNo, trans fats are flat out worse. They are not safe. Pretty much period. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(99)01609-8/abstract https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... is an older study that supports this pretty directly. Is a big part of why they were removed from the "safe" category in 2015.
- hinkley 1y agoAnd that has nothing at all to do with food allergies.