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That's basically WSL. My work laptop is Windows, and the only native applications I run on it are a web browser, Zoom, and the company's VPN software. Everyth

by dpifke 1y ago

That's basically WSL. My work laptop is Windows, and the only native applications I run on it are a web browser, Zoom, and the company's VPN software. Everything else runs inside WSL. I greatly prefer Debian to Homebrew, so if I can't run actual Linux, this is (to me) superior to trying to develop on a Mac.

illusive4080 1y ago
I agree that Debian beats Homebrew. But wouldn’t a persistent Debian container on Mac be better? WSL is nothing more than a container on the system, no? The Mac hardware is vastly superior to most Windows laptops, especially enterprise Windows laptops.
- dpifke 1y ago
  With Windows 11, WSL has X and Wayland support, so you can run graphical applications as if they're native (e.g. share the same cut-and-paste buffer, switch between windows using alt+tab, and so on). It's also much easier to attach USB devices like Yubikeys to an already-running container than the last time I tried to do the same with Parallels. (That was quite a few years ago, so maybe it's gotten better.) You can also launch Windows applications from Linux, which is makes it trivial to control my (Windows-native) browser from within WSL. I strongly disagree about Mac hardware vs. Thinkpads or Framework, but to each their own.
- spankibalt 1y ago
  > The Mac hardware is vastly superior to most Windows laptops, especially enterprise Windows laptops. Man alive, what you mean is normie "Apple-style" Windows laptops with a bit of an "enterprise" makeover. Mobile enterprise workhorses (e. g. Panasonic, Getac)? Apple has no hardware in this segment. Detachables with extended five-year warranties plus certified dual-OS support? Nothing. Some of you fruit afficionados need to get out more.
- Wingy 1y ago
  You can do that at least for CLI apps with OrbStack. Not sure if it has X or Wayland support.
- pjmlp 1y ago
  My Thinkpad has CUDA and native Vulkan support, with hardware specs that are 1000 euros cheaper than getting the same capabilities on a Mac laptop.

by dpifke 1y ago

illusive4080 1y ago

I agree that Debian beats Homebrew. But wouldn’t a persistent Debian container on Mac be better? WSL is nothing more than a container on the system, no? The Mac hardware is vastly superior to most Windows laptops, especially enterprise Windows laptops.

dpifke 1y ago
With Windows 11, WSL has X and Wayland support, so you can run graphical applications as if they're native (e.g. share the same cut-and-paste buffer, switch between windows using alt+tab, and so on). It's also much easier to attach USB devices like Yubikeys to an already-running container than the last time I tried to do the same with Parallels. (That was quite a few years ago, so maybe it's gotten better.) You can also launch Windows applications from Linux, which is makes it trivial to control my (Windows-native) browser from within WSL. I strongly disagree about Mac hardware vs. Thinkpads or Framework, but to each their own.
spankibalt 1y ago
> The Mac hardware is vastly superior to most Windows laptops, especially enterprise Windows laptops. Man alive, what you mean is normie "Apple-style" Windows laptops with a bit of an "enterprise" makeover. Mobile enterprise workhorses (e. g. Panasonic, Getac)? Apple has no hardware in this segment. Detachables with extended five-year warranties plus certified dual-OS support? Nothing. Some of you fruit afficionados need to get out more.
Wingy 1y ago
You can do that at least for CLI apps with OrbStack. Not sure if it has X or Wayland support.
pjmlp 1y ago
My Thinkpad has CUDA and native Vulkan support, with hardware specs that are 1000 euros cheaper than getting the same capabilities on a Mac laptop.