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The silver lining is that they are operating under the assumption that he will leave office at the conclusion of his term.
by jm4 1y ago
The silver lining is that they are operating under the assumption that he will leave office at the conclusion of his term.
- sigmoid10 1y ago[flagged]
- cyberge99 1y agoWhich will backfire spectacularly when Obama is re-elected.
- zzrrt 1y agoI get the impulse and it would be amusing, but I have a feeling people are sick of "dynasty" Dem candidates for president (Hillary after her husband, Biden/Harris after each being VPs.) Feels like his legacy and appeal has kind of faded too. He was an exciting first-time candidate and good-enough incumbent, but third term?
- simondotau 1y agoHillary sure, but they explicitly said Obama, not Clinton. Nominating a VP as President isn’t dynastic, it’s been common practice for centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vice_presidents_of_the_United_States_who_ran_for_president https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vice_presidents_of_the...
- heavyset_go 1y agoSomething about powerful people handing power down being common practice for centuries seems dynasty-like to me.
- simondotau 1y agoHanding your own power down to yourself — as is the case when a VP wins the primary and presidency, or Obama running for a third term — is not a “dynasty”.
- Spooky23 1y agoYou can’t get elected if you don’t count the votes. That requires a joint session of congress. If due to an unprecedented emergency the congress cannot come into session there’s no clear rule what happens. Any number of emergent events may create an emergency preventing the congress from gathering. The congress are collaborators and the Supreme Court is compromised.
- UltraSane 1y agoThat would trigger a real civil war.
- testing22321 1y agoWhich would further delay any chance of a transition of power. More and more it looks like that is what he wants.
- UltraSane 1y agoIt would trigger his removal.
- testing22321 1y agoHow?
- zzrrt 1y agoTrump was giddy at that Zelenskiy meeting a few months ago, when he heard elections were suspended in Ukraine due to the war. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bvUBtdHw3g4 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bvUBtdHw3g4 Said something like "So, if in 3.5 years, we are in a war... no more elections. Oh, that's good."
- evan_ 1y ago> If due to an unprecedented emergency the congress cannot come into session there’s no clear rule what happens. For instance if hundreds of people are rioting and breaking into the capitol building. That's what they were trying to do on Jan 6.
- paxys 1y agoWhat makes you think Obama will be allowed to run?
- qingcharles 1y agoThey already thought of that. He won't: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45663333 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45663333
- overfeed 1y agoIf it were to happen, I fully expect the supreme court to contort itself for a bespoke ruling that only applies under the current set of circumstances, favoring a very specific candidate and no one else.
- qingcharles 1y agoIt's already happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45663333 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45663333
- heavyset_go 1y agoReminder that the President's legal team argued that he could have his political rivals executed by SEAL Team 6 and the Supreme Court was like "yep!" and ruled in his favor.
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- evan_ 1y agoIf they do this approach they will surely say that the constitutional limit is two consecutive terms, and since Trump's two terms were non-consecutive, he's still eligible to run again.
- qingcharles 1y agoThey already did, 9 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45663333 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45663333
- simondotau 1y agoNo, the approach will be to put Trump second on a ticket as vice president, and then have the top name on the ticket abdicate on day one. The constitution says he can’t be elected president, but on an extremely pedantic reading, it doesn’t say he can’t be elected vice president.
- qingcharles 1y agoThe constitutional amendment that GOP have put forward specifically prohibits any president who previously served two consecutive terms. (they had already thought this through, it literally only allows Trump three terms) “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.” https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-joint-resolution/29/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-joint-res...
- fatbird 1y agoThey can't possibly believe that they'll get 37 states to ratify it in the next three years to make it all square and legal. Their only plausible path is some very tortured Supreme Court ruling.
- sigmoid10 1y agoLook at the options they are actually evaluating. This is not about an actual election or changing amendments (which even they admit is unlikely) and more playing the system using never before used tricks to have Trump in the chair again after the dust settles.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 1y ago>Don't be fooled by this pretense. MAGA republicans are already actively working towards getting him another term Yes, he's in such excellent health, I can definitely see him living (and non-comatose!) long enough for that.
- hinkley 1y agoI’m surprised he is vertical. He acts like how Biden looks.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y agoI expect him to be walled off from external appearances within some amount of time so he can focus on truly important projects. Like redesigning the lawn. Or the amount of gold leaf on everything. My real question, if/when that happens, who is pulling the strings with the most sway?
- overfeed 1y agoVought and Miller
- NoMoreNicksLeft 1y ago>My real question, if/when that happens, who is pulling the strings with the most sway? I think it's evident that no one is in firm control. The Elon Musk fallout was that... Musk overreached or miscalculated, and one of the other contenders saw the opportunity to oust him. But I don't think that contender has consolidated his hold yet, Trump's too flighty. The answer could be changing day to day, depending on which asshat manages to ambush him first (or best) as they walk to the meeting room.
- brightball 1y agoThis is the trolling equivalent of "embrace, extend, extinguish." They are mocking the people who believe it by amplifying it, making Trump 2028 merch, etc.
- actionfromafar 1y agoHaha, only serious?
- brightball 1y agoYes. Even sent a bunch of Trump 2028 hats to Gavin Newsom. https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/trump-supporters-troll-gavin-newsom-by-sending-him-two-dozen-2028-hats/ https://nypost.com/2025/08/28/us-news/trump-supporters-troll...
- matthewdgreen 1y agoI personally think Trump will be too old to run, but I don’t think for a second they won’t try to run him if he’s able. They always start by making it a “joke”.
- heavyset_go 1y agoThat's what they said about the "Mass Deportations Now" signs at the RNC 2024 campaign events.
- brightball 1y agoNo, they pretty openly campaigned on that. Trump was shot while the slide showing the illegal border crossing chart under the Biden admin and talking about how much work it was going to be to send everyone back.
- heavyset_go 1y agoI agree, I'm talking about the disingenuous double talk they'd give when pressed, anyone who made a big deal about it was overreacting, it's just a joke (but not really) to trigger liberals, haha look at how upset you're getting, etc.
- boston_clone 1y agoFor those that don't want to believe this, here's a primary source: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GyrWkIEW8AQJOHN?format=jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GyrWkIEW8AQJOHN?format=jpg
- UltraSane 1y agoAin't gonna happen. It would actually trigger a civil war.
- boston_clone 1y agoand what about him openly stating how he's considered declaring martial law to suspend elections? an apt comparison I saw elsewhere is that the left side of the aisle is acting like the opposing team from Air Bud: "hey, a dog can't play basketball, it's against the rules!!" meanwhile, the dog is making shots over and over again.
- UltraSane 1y ago"declaring martial law to suspend elections?" This would also absolutely trigger a civil war.
- boston_clone 1y agoi don’t think we should lull ourselves into complacency with projected certainties. if you listen to right-wing discourse, you’d know there is an not insignificant contingent of folks that are very okay with that path
- UltraSane 1y agoWhich is why it would trigger a civil war. Republicans will destroy democracy in the US before accepting defeat but the rest of us are not going to lie down and let them.
- jm4 1y agoWho is going to lead? It's not as if we can all spontaneously take to the streets and start fighting the bad guys. It requires leadership, logistics, weapons, planning, and about a thousand other things. A would be leader would be taken out immediately. Realistically, the most feasible way a two-sided civil war happens is if a number of generals revolt. That's a big if. Soldiers need to eat and get paid. Who's going to do that? Otherwise, it's just the government - aka the orange lunatic with all the guns and money - running roughshod over everyone. The most optimistic scenario would be an open and overwhelming revolt at all levels of government and forcing him to leave simply because there's nobody left who will obey. After that, we would need to return to some semblance of sanity and amend the constitution to prevent anything like this from happening again. It requires a competent Congress with principles and conviction. Furthermore, it requires massive public support. Unfortunately, about 30% of the population is eager to support the orange bastard and watch the world burn. The country will be dealing with the fallout of this POS for the next 150 years, assuming the country even lasts that long.