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So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approach. Of course that would require top-tier ML engineers who mostly all are pay-captured by Big Tech.

giancarlostoro 1y ago
I would definitely prefer these to be browser plugins that have clear sandboxing instead of owning my entire browser. That said, I do like Comet.
alvis 1y ago
I’m not sure even if these browser automation brings much value other than financial analysts, at least for the moment
- mentalgear 1y ago
  I was sceptical as well before trying it out, but it is unfortunately very practical to ask the AI sidebar about an information-dense website or even github codebase (just as dev examples). There were of course many browser extensions that did this beforehand (and even better, by hyper-linking the exact text passage of answer segments), but the main differentiator is that most people don't use them/know about them, and this comes with a big tech nametag and it is free.
  - digdugdirk 1y ago
    Care to share some of those extensions? I feel like we're on the second/third wave of llm enhanced tools, and there's plenty of good stuff that got passed over from earlier waves of products/tool attempts.
    - mentalgear 1y ago
      Try search on a browser extension store for "AI Chat website" or similar. Also you can check out https://github.com/nanobrowser/nanobrowser https://github.com/nanobrowser/nanobrowser.
  - VortexLain 1y ago
    Could you please suggest some of those extensions? I've been looking for an agentic tool like that, but isolated as an extension.
bogwog 1y ago
What value? I haven't used them myself, but from reviews I've seen on Youtube they appear to be flaky and not all that useful. It reminds me of when voice assistants like Siri came out, and it turned out that the only thing they were good for was setting timers, controlling music playback, and gimmicky stuff like that.
- mapontosevenths 1y ago
  Try it yourself and ignore the hype. For certain things it can be really useful, just keep in mind that it's early days. I recently used Comet to find out of print movies that were never released on DVD/Bluray, then find them on ebay, then find the best value, then provide me with a list to order. It felt like magic watching it work, and saved me many hours of either doing it myself or scripting it. I did have to repeatedly break it into ever smaller tasks to get everything to fit within the context windows, but still... it might have been janky but it was janky magic.
  - TranquilMarmot 1y ago
    Surely this is something you can do with simple searches...? Unless you're reaching the level of trying to buy dozens or hundreds of movies. https://xkcd.com/1205/ https://xkcd.com/1205/
    - ianbutler 1y ago
      But why? The AI can go off and search and I can do other stuff while it does. The point is the multiply how much you can get done, simple searches still require me to be present and to do the work of compiling the list myself, this type of busy work seems much better suited to tools like this that take a sentence or 2 to kick off
      - candiddevmike 1y ago
        My brain can't work like that. When I'm pursuing things, I always await until the blocking operation is done, something about uninterrupted train of thought and avoiding context switching.
basisword 1y ago
The only realistic competition I could see is Apple and they've invested in some small Safari AI features so far. They're also the only one I could trust in terms of privacy and keeping stuff secure and on device.
echelon 1y ago
If the DeepSeek approach to training hyperscaler models "cheaply" after all the hype wears down works, we just need to follow in their footsteps and build open source alternatives to everything. Frontier models take a lot of money and experimentation. But then people figure out how to train them and knowledge of those models and approaches leaks. Furthermore, we can make informed guesses. But best of all, we can exfiltrate the model's output and distill the model. If we work together as an industry to open source everything, we can overcome this. OpenAI has to 100x in five years or they're going to be in trouble. Models are making it easy to replace SaaS, but also easy to replace other AI companies. There may be no moat for any of this. The lead is only because they're a few generations ahead, running as fast as they can on the treadmill. I don't think this hurts China at all.
- mentalgear 1y ago
  Indeed the "no-moat" (weight exfiltration of any openly accessible model) is something that makes me optimistic. That, and the fact that most tasks have "capacity thresholds" which on-device models will increasingly be able to saturate. One example is SQL query generation from text (example: duckdb-text2sql https://motherduck.com/blog/duckdb-text2sql-llm/ https://motherduck.com/blog/duckdb-text2sql-llm/).
- oldpersonintx2 1y ago
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- motoxpro 1y ago
  Curious as to what companies you think DO have a moat? I would say their moat is the same as Facebook's. Not permanent (see TikTok) but also super strong.
  - echelon 1y ago
    TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, etc. have network effect stickiness. YouTube has a vast library that grows in value over time and has been able to lose money for long enough to make the experience unassailable, etc. (Look at Vimeo.) Maybe LLMs get that by knowing our entire past? But I find that creepier than useful. Right now ChatGPT is at the top of the world, but I don't see it becoming the new unrivaled Google Search. There's just too many people building it, and once OpenAI starts monetizing and "enshittifying" it, other offerings will become more compelling. AI models put a large swath of mostly tech companies at risk. Including the old business models of titan products like Google Search. Image/video/world models specifically do this more to legacy media incumbents than LLMs do to complex business processes. We see orders of magnitude savings with marketing, design, film, and possibly in the future game design. LLMs, on the other hand, aren't great at getting your taxes or complex business logic right.
lawlessone 1y ago
I've found my browser works fine without LLMs.
- fragmede 1y ago
  Yeah, but if I could tell my web browser to read my comment history to figure out what I engage with on HN and to have it read HN for me and write comments for me then I would get all this time back and have more time to do chores around the house!
- guy_5676 1y ago
  Who needs browsers at all? We have libraries and the Dewey Decimal system
  - thejazzman 1y ago
    What a scam that was! Boy, this Dewey guy really cleaned up on that deal. https://amphetamem.es/meme?id=seinfeld_03_05_67&timestamp=0%3A2%3A50.387&text=Boy%2C+this+Dewey+guy+really%0Acleaned+up+on+that+deal.&dimensions=1920x1080&title=&year=&series=Seinfeld&season=3&episodeNumber=5&episodeTitle=The+Library&tsv=%27boy%27%3A1+%27cleaned%27%3A6+%27deal%27%3A10+%27dewey%27%3A3+%27guy%27%3A4+%27on%27%3A8+%27really%27%3A5+%27seinfeld%27%3A11+%27that%27%3A9+%27this%27%3A2+%27up%27%3A7&at=%2Fseinfeld%2F03%2F05%2F0-2-50-387&text_corrected= https://amphetamem.es/meme?id=seinfeld_03_05_67&timestamp=0%...
mlnj 1y ago
>I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approach. That's the first thing that came to mind. Every single action across every single website would be available to OpenAI with this browser. Even if I wanted to leverage something like this it'd have to be a fully local LLM interacting with a huge local DB of my info.
- airspresso 1y ago
  How is that different from Google Chrome? Not debating that it's scary to have all that context collected in one place, just saying it's already been status quo on the web for years.
shit_game 1y ago
So the fear is a new Chrome, but "agentic"? It's not an irrational fear, but the frightening bit depends on whether or not this actually takes off. I very much doubt it ever will. The browser ecosystem, despite being in desperate need of upheaval, is largely resiliant to it because things that work don't tend to get replaced unless they are broken to a point where even the most basic of users are inconvenienced. Or forced to change (due to vendor pressure). Oh, there's the rational fear.
mapontosevenths 1y ago
Websites are terrible from a security, usability, accessibility, privacy, and mental health perspective. These tools could be used to fix all of those things. Instead they're just being used to do the same old junk, but like... faster. I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed. Yes, I even want the stupid machine to filter content for me. If I tell it "no politics on Tuesdays" it should be able to go find the things I'm interested in, but remove the references to politics. I understand that there are new risks to this approach, but it could be built with those things in mind. I'm aware that this would give a lot of power to the developers, but frankly trusting thousands/millions of individual weirdos on the open web hasn't turned out to be any better at this point and it's all become consolidated by near monopolies in user-hostile ways anyhow.
- mentalgear 1y ago
  I share many of your ideas, and I think the best solution would be: 1. a pure data API web (like the original semantic-web idea) 2. open-source browsers which can query for information using on-device LLMs and display it to the user in any UI way they want. I think 1. will happen, since all search engines will use AI results, with no click through to the original data-owner (website). So there is no more financial incentive to keep a UI website. The question is if the "data API web" will be decentralised or under the control of a few big players that already mined the web. 2. will hopefully happen if on-device models become more capable, the question is by then whether most people are already defaulted to AI browsers from big tech (since they have the money to burn-cash using cloud LLM services to capture market share before on-device LLMs are good enough). The only way to prevent this is user-education and mistrust verus Big Tech, which is what already befell Microsoft's Recall (besides a terrible security architecure).
- irilesscent 1y ago
  > I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed. The browser you're looking for already exists :) (partially) its called arc browser on mobile and specifically their browse for me feature
baby 1y ago
Downloaded Comet last week and I was wondering why anthropic/openAI didn't have one. It's a no brainer. Google's hegemony is really going to take a hit, wondering if hardware-software monopolies like Apple are also going to get hit at some point.
- parthdesai 1y ago
  > It's a no brainer. Google's hegemony is really going to take a hit Wonder which company has the best in class browser today, along with a really really good model, an in-house chip, datacenter infra, and most importantly, is cash flow positive?
  - baby 1y ago
    You really think chrome has such a big moat?
    - dismalaf 1y ago
      It's more about the fact that if both Chrome and Atlas have AI, then which will people choose?
- ewoodrich 1y ago
  When ChatGPT was first released I quickly lost count of the number of HN comments predicting Google had about 6-12 months before their search monopoly and ad revenue evaporated.
  - baby 1y ago
    You think it's not happening? Do you still use google? I don't personally
    - byzantinegene 1y ago
      yes a 100ms search still beats a prompt that takes several seconds to return a response everytime
empath75 1y ago
This thing is going to be the only way people use their computer in 18 months. Google is dead as a company. If they get a decent audio interface and get this on phones, apple is in trouble.
xnx 1y ago
> So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. OpenAI probably barely knows or cares that Perplexity/Comet exists.
noir_lord 1y ago
> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. Do not want, I want none of it and no part of it. I'll use Lynx before I use that. AI is already infesting search results directly (til I adblocked it), writing the crap on whatever page I just landed on and led me to turn unhook up to "just show the damn video" on YT. I've yet to see a single use of AI that in any way improves my life and I'm supposed to hand companies who are already too powerful even more of my life/data for that. I'll pass. From my point of view it's become very tiresome pretending the emperor is wearing clothes or at least not pointing that out.
- entropi 1y ago
  I feel the same way. Yet people are using AI for therapy, listening to AI-written novels read by AI, gladly watching AI-made slop. There seems to be real actual demand for it. Feels like total insanity to me; but here we are and facts are facts. I guess whether the emperor is wearing clothes or not never actually mattered.
  - flkiwi 1y ago
    I saw someone post a Gemini summary from a Google search as their interpretation of a legal question (not a lawyer) and, when they were called on it, scoffed that they hadn’t used AI. People don’t even know when they’re relying on AI at this point. Which isn’t great given the current state of things.
oezi 1y ago
We have to ask when is Chrome bringing this functionality? With Gemini
- andrewinardeer 1y ago
  Can't be far off.
- markdog12 1y ago
  https://www.google.com/chrome/ai-innovations/ https://www.google.com/chrome/ai-innovations/
- ecommerceguy 1y ago
  I'm on Macos and Chrome has a Gemini button that functions very similar to Grox on X.. It's useful and unobtrusive. I also use Comet for specific financial research, also very useful. I have edge with Copilot. Never use it. Microsoft is gross. I have an invite to something called Strawberry but at this point, I'm tapped out. Sorry OpenAI, you're late to the game for me. Maybe next week.
lazharichir 1y ago
Definitely the feature but I'm sure Gemini is seconds away (figuratively) from invading Chrome and if it has an agent mode itself, it will eat everybody's lunch in the browser space.
- mentalgear 1y ago
  Yes, there is a on-device Gemini model for Chrome. (Chrome Built-in AI), they have been testing it for over a year (been participating) and there were hackathons around it (ongoing until Nov 1 https://googlechromeai2025.devpost.com https://googlechromeai2025.devpost.com). In general, I like the idea, but I'm afraid the final implementation will still auto-decide between using the local (for cost saving) and cloud LLM. And potentially outsourcing all your browser-usage LLMs calls to Big Tech like Google is a no-go .
phatfish 1y ago
Firefox has a page summary using a local LLM, not the same as the full data mining the "Atlas" thing does though. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/ai-tech/ai-link-previews-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/ai-tech/ai-link-previ...
melicerte 1y ago
> I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. Oooh boy, thanks, but no thanks. I don't want a BitTech to know everything about me and my browsing habit. Yet I wonder how these browser behave when you are visiting your Friday night porn site? Also, your comment made me think about the fact that free AI is dead in a near feature because it probably is economically unsustainable. Consequently, pay to browse might around the corner. Or ..., like for the for all those social networks, we all be the product. Is AI powered browsers the dead of our freedom ?
lnrd 1y ago
> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. Hasn't this gate been open since Chrome conquered the browser market years ago?
rco8786 1y ago
Is it me or has there been an enormous uptick in usage of the word "truly" lately? It's starting to give me AI smell anytime I see it. > these AI-browsers do truly bring value Do they? Truly? > a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you Again?
kaptainscarlet 1y ago
> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. We have had that for over a decade, and the Big Tech is called Google. By owning Android, Google pretty much owns and knows everything about its users. The same applies to Apple.

giancarlostoro 1y ago

I would definitely prefer these to be browser plugins that have clear sandboxing instead of owning my entire browser. That said, I do like Comet.

alvis 1y ago

I’m not sure even if these browser automation brings much value other than financial analysts, at least for the moment

mentalgear 1y ago
I was sceptical as well before trying it out, but it is unfortunately very practical to ask the AI sidebar about an information-dense website or even github codebase (just as dev examples). There were of course many browser extensions that did this beforehand (and even better, by hyper-linking the exact text passage of answer segments), but the main differentiator is that most people don't use them/know about them, and this comes with a big tech nametag and it is free.
- digdugdirk 1y ago
  Care to share some of those extensions? I feel like we're on the second/third wave of llm enhanced tools, and there's plenty of good stuff that got passed over from earlier waves of products/tool attempts.
  - mentalgear 1y ago
    Try search on a browser extension store for "AI Chat website" or similar. Also you can check out https://github.com/nanobrowser/nanobrowser https://github.com/nanobrowser/nanobrowser.
- VortexLain 1y ago
  Could you please suggest some of those extensions? I've been looking for an agentic tool like that, but isolated as an extension.

bogwog 1y ago

What value? I haven't used them myself, but from reviews I've seen on Youtube they appear to be flaky and not all that useful. It reminds me of when voice assistants like Siri came out, and it turned out that the only thing they were good for was setting timers, controlling music playback, and gimmicky stuff like that.

mapontosevenths 1y ago
Try it yourself and ignore the hype. For certain things it can be really useful, just keep in mind that it's early days. I recently used Comet to find out of print movies that were never released on DVD/Bluray, then find them on ebay, then find the best value, then provide me with a list to order. It felt like magic watching it work, and saved me many hours of either doing it myself or scripting it. I did have to repeatedly break it into ever smaller tasks to get everything to fit within the context windows, but still... it might have been janky but it was janky magic.
- TranquilMarmot 1y ago
  Surely this is something you can do with simple searches...? Unless you're reaching the level of trying to buy dozens or hundreds of movies. https://xkcd.com/1205/ https://xkcd.com/1205/
  - ianbutler 1y ago
    But why? The AI can go off and search and I can do other stuff while it does. The point is the multiply how much you can get done, simple searches still require me to be present and to do the work of compiling the list myself, this type of busy work seems much better suited to tools like this that take a sentence or 2 to kick off
    - candiddevmike 1y ago
      My brain can't work like that. When I'm pursuing things, I always await until the blocking operation is done, something about uninterrupted train of thought and avoiding context switching.

basisword 1y ago

The only realistic competition I could see is Apple and they've invested in some small Safari AI features so far. They're also the only one I could trust in terms of privacy and keeping stuff secure and on device.

echelon 1y ago

If the DeepSeek approach to training hyperscaler models "cheaply" after all the hype wears down works, we just need to follow in their footsteps and build open source alternatives to everything. Frontier models take a lot of money and experimentation. But then people figure out how to train them and knowledge of those models and approaches leaks. Furthermore, we can make informed guesses. But best of all, we can exfiltrate the model's output and distill the model. If we work together as an industry to open source everything, we can overcome this. OpenAI has to 100x in five years or they're going to be in trouble. Models are making it easy to replace SaaS, but also easy to replace other AI companies. There may be no moat for any of this. The lead is only because they're a few generations ahead, running as fast as they can on the treadmill. I don't think this hurts China at all.

mentalgear 1y ago
Indeed the "no-moat" (weight exfiltration of any openly accessible model) is something that makes me optimistic. That, and the fact that most tasks have "capacity thresholds" which on-device models will increasingly be able to saturate. One example is SQL query generation from text (example: duckdb-text2sql https://motherduck.com/blog/duckdb-text2sql-llm/ https://motherduck.com/blog/duckdb-text2sql-llm/).
oldpersonintx2 1y ago
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motoxpro 1y ago
Curious as to what companies you think DO have a moat? I would say their moat is the same as Facebook's. Not permanent (see TikTok) but also super strong.
- echelon 1y ago
  TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, etc. have network effect stickiness. YouTube has a vast library that grows in value over time and has been able to lose money for long enough to make the experience unassailable, etc. (Look at Vimeo.) Maybe LLMs get that by knowing our entire past? But I find that creepier than useful. Right now ChatGPT is at the top of the world, but I don't see it becoming the new unrivaled Google Search. There's just too many people building it, and once OpenAI starts monetizing and "enshittifying" it, other offerings will become more compelling. AI models put a large swath of mostly tech companies at risk. Including the old business models of titan products like Google Search. Image/video/world models specifically do this more to legacy media incumbents than LLMs do to complex business processes. We see orders of magnitude savings with marketing, design, film, and possibly in the future game design. LLMs, on the other hand, aren't great at getting your taxes or complex business logic right.

lawlessone 1y ago

I've found my browser works fine without LLMs.

fragmede 1y ago
Yeah, but if I could tell my web browser to read my comment history to figure out what I engage with on HN and to have it read HN for me and write comments for me then I would get all this time back and have more time to do chores around the house!
guy_5676 1y ago
Who needs browsers at all? We have libraries and the Dewey Decimal system
- thejazzman 1y ago
  What a scam that was! Boy, this Dewey guy really cleaned up on that deal. https://amphetamem.es/meme?id=seinfeld_03_05_67&timestamp=0%3A2%3A50.387&text=Boy%2C+this+Dewey+guy+really%0Acleaned+up+on+that+deal.&dimensions=1920x1080&title=&year=&series=Seinfeld&season=3&episodeNumber=5&episodeTitle=The+Library&tsv=%27boy%27%3A1+%27cleaned%27%3A6+%27deal%27%3A10+%27dewey%27%3A3+%27guy%27%3A4+%27on%27%3A8+%27really%27%3A5+%27seinfeld%27%3A11+%27that%27%3A9+%27this%27%3A2+%27up%27%3A7&at=%2Fseinfeld%2F03%2F05%2F0-2-50-387&text_corrected= https://amphetamem.es/meme?id=seinfeld_03_05_67&timestamp=0%...

mlnj 1y ago

>I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approach. That's the first thing that came to mind. Every single action across every single website would be available to OpenAI with this browser. Even if I wanted to leverage something like this it'd have to be a fully local LLM interacting with a huge local DB of my info.

airspresso 1y ago
How is that different from Google Chrome? Not debating that it's scary to have all that context collected in one place, just saying it's already been status quo on the web for years.

shit_game 1y ago

So the fear is a new Chrome, but "agentic"? It's not an irrational fear, but the frightening bit depends on whether or not this actually takes off. I very much doubt it ever will. The browser ecosystem, despite being in desperate need of upheaval, is largely resiliant to it because things that work don't tend to get replaced unless they are broken to a point where even the most basic of users are inconvenienced. Or forced to change (due to vendor pressure). Oh, there's the rational fear.

mapontosevenths 1y ago

Websites are terrible from a security, usability, accessibility, privacy, and mental health perspective. These tools could be used to fix all of those things. Instead they're just being used to do the same old junk, but like... faster. I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed. Yes, I even want the stupid machine to filter content for me. If I tell it "no politics on Tuesdays" it should be able to go find the things I'm interested in, but remove the references to politics. I understand that there are new risks to this approach, but it could be built with those things in mind. I'm aware that this would give a lot of power to the developers, but frankly trusting thousands/millions of individual weirdos on the open web hasn't turned out to be any better at this point and it's all become consolidated by near monopolies in user-hostile ways anyhow.

mentalgear 1y ago
I share many of your ideas, and I think the best solution would be: 1. a pure data API web (like the original semantic-web idea) 2. open-source browsers which can query for information using on-device LLMs and display it to the user in any UI way they want. I think 1. will happen, since all search engines will use AI results, with no click through to the original data-owner (website). So there is no more financial incentive to keep a UI website. The question is if the "data API web" will be decentralised or under the control of a few big players that already mined the web. 2. will hopefully happen if on-device models become more capable, the question is by then whether most people are already defaulted to AI browsers from big tech (since they have the money to burn-cash using cloud LLM services to capture market share before on-device LLMs are good enough). The only way to prevent this is user-education and mistrust verus Big Tech, which is what already befell Microsoft's Recall (besides a terrible security architecure).
irilesscent 1y ago
> I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed. The browser you're looking for already exists :) (partially) its called arc browser on mobile and specifically their browse for me feature

baby 1y ago

Downloaded Comet last week and I was wondering why anthropic/openAI didn't have one. It's a no brainer. Google's hegemony is really going to take a hit, wondering if hardware-software monopolies like Apple are also going to get hit at some point.

parthdesai 1y ago
> It's a no brainer. Google's hegemony is really going to take a hit Wonder which company has the best in class browser today, along with a really really good model, an in-house chip, datacenter infra, and most importantly, is cash flow positive?
- baby 1y ago
  You really think chrome has such a big moat?
  - dismalaf 1y ago
    It's more about the fact that if both Chrome and Atlas have AI, then which will people choose?
ewoodrich 1y ago
When ChatGPT was first released I quickly lost count of the number of HN comments predicting Google had about 6-12 months before their search monopoly and ad revenue evaporated.
- baby 1y ago
  You think it's not happening? Do you still use google? I don't personally
  - byzantinegene 1y ago
    yes a 100ms search still beats a prompt that takes several seconds to return a response everytime

empath75 1y ago

This thing is going to be the only way people use their computer in 18 months. Google is dead as a company. If they get a decent audio interface and get this on phones, apple is in trouble.

xnx 1y ago

> So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. OpenAI probably barely knows or cares that Perplexity/Comet exists.

noir_lord 1y ago

> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. Do not want, I want none of it and no part of it. I'll use Lynx before I use that. AI is already infesting search results directly (til I adblocked it), writing the crap on whatever page I just landed on and led me to turn unhook up to "just show the damn video" on YT. I've yet to see a single use of AI that in any way improves my life and I'm supposed to hand companies who are already too powerful even more of my life/data for that. I'll pass. From my point of view it's become very tiresome pretending the emperor is wearing clothes or at least not pointing that out.

entropi 1y ago
I feel the same way. Yet people are using AI for therapy, listening to AI-written novels read by AI, gladly watching AI-made slop. There seems to be real actual demand for it. Feels like total insanity to me; but here we are and facts are facts. I guess whether the emperor is wearing clothes or not never actually mattered.
- flkiwi 1y ago
  I saw someone post a Gemini summary from a Google search as their interpretation of a legal question (not a lawyer) and, when they were called on it, scoffed that they hadn’t used AI. People don’t even know when they’re relying on AI at this point. Which isn’t great given the current state of things.

oezi 1y ago

We have to ask when is Chrome bringing this functionality? With Gemini

andrewinardeer 1y ago
Can't be far off.
markdog12 1y ago
https://www.google.com/chrome/ai-innovations/ https://www.google.com/chrome/ai-innovations/
ecommerceguy 1y ago
I'm on Macos and Chrome has a Gemini button that functions very similar to Grox on X.. It's useful and unobtrusive. I also use Comet for specific financial research, also very useful. I have edge with Copilot. Never use it. Microsoft is gross. I have an invite to something called Strawberry but at this point, I'm tapped out. Sorry OpenAI, you're late to the game for me. Maybe next week.

lazharichir 1y ago

Definitely the feature but I'm sure Gemini is seconds away (figuratively) from invading Chrome and if it has an agent mode itself, it will eat everybody's lunch in the browser space.

mentalgear 1y ago
Yes, there is a on-device Gemini model for Chrome. (Chrome Built-in AI), they have been testing it for over a year (been participating) and there were hackathons around it (ongoing until Nov 1 https://googlechromeai2025.devpost.com https://googlechromeai2025.devpost.com). In general, I like the idea, but I'm afraid the final implementation will still auto-decide between using the local (for cost saving) and cloud LLM. And potentially outsourcing all your browser-usage LLMs calls to Big Tech like Google is a no-go .

phatfish 1y ago

Firefox has a page summary using a local LLM, not the same as the full data mining the "Atlas" thing does though. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/ai-tech/ai-link-previews-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/ai-tech/ai-link-previ...

melicerte 1y ago

> I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. Oooh boy, thanks, but no thanks. I don't want a BitTech to know everything about me and my browsing habit. Yet I wonder how these browser behave when you are visiting your Friday night porn site? Also, your comment made me think about the fact that free AI is dead in a near feature because it probably is economically unsustainable. Consequently, pay to browse might around the corner. Or ..., like for the for all those social networks, we all be the product. Is AI powered browsers the dead of our freedom ?

lnrd 1y ago

> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. Hasn't this gate been open since Chrome conquered the browser market years ago?

rco8786 1y ago

Is it me or has there been an enormous uptick in usage of the word "truly" lately? It's starting to give me AI smell anytime I see it. > these AI-browsers do truly bring value Do they? Truly? > a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you Again?

kaptainscarlet 1y ago

> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. We have had that for over a decade, and the Big Tech is called Google. By owning Android, Google pretty much owns and knows everything about its users. The same applies to Apple.