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I agree with your assessment of KDE lacking "taste". Imo, it looks like a system designed by engineers, not designers. GNOME has the opposite problem imo. I fe

I agree with your assessment of KDE lacking "taste". Imo, it looks like a system designed by engineers, not designers. GNOME has the opposite problem imo. I feel like it has "taste", but it feels like a system fully designed by designers, with no engineers giving practical pushback. It's the same issue macOS has, but amplified: Designers have some grand idea about their vision being the one true way of using the system and made it hard to impossible to customize. I currently use KDE, but am not happy with it for the reasons you described. I used to use GNOME, but wasn't happy with it for the reasons above. I have high hopes for Cosmic [0]. It seems like that one might get the balance right. [0] https://system76.com/cosmic https://system76.com/cosmic

Flamingoat 1y ago
> I agree with your assessment of KDE lacking "taste". Imo, it looks like a system designed by engineers, not designers. TBF, I was linked their more up to date screenshots in a sibling thread and it does look more consistent but it still seems off. > I currently use KDE, but am not happy with it for the reasons you described. I used to use GNOME, but wasn't happy with it for the reasons above. I don't like any of the Linux DEs tbh. They all have issues. I might give KDE a go. But I think Debian does a poor job at packaging it and I don't really want to change distros. > I have high hopes for Cosmic [0]. It seems like that one might get the balance right. I tried compiling Cosmic on source on Debian 12. I ran out of memory on the VM I was doing it on. I also found out that on Debian 12 their rustc was broken!
- saubeidl 1y ago
  Do you think GNOME has similar UI issues? In my view, it's "pretty", but just doesn't let me configure it the way I want it to without hacking around way too much.
  - Flamingoat 1y ago
    Yes. I agree. Gnome is kinda weird OOTB. I ended up installing Dash To Dock and Ubuntu App Indicator Icons when I was using it and I ended up with something decent. I also usually have to faff around in the gnome tweaks tool to get the old "legacy" apps and the new apps looking consistent.
- touggourt 1y ago
  I use KDE on Debian and found it is well packaged

Flamingoat 1y ago

> I agree with your assessment of KDE lacking "taste". Imo, it looks like a system designed by engineers, not designers. TBF, I was linked their more up to date screenshots in a sibling thread and it does look more consistent but it still seems off. > I currently use KDE, but am not happy with it for the reasons you described. I used to use GNOME, but wasn't happy with it for the reasons above. I don't like any of the Linux DEs tbh. They all have issues. I might give KDE a go. But I think Debian does a poor job at packaging it and I don't really want to change distros. > I have high hopes for Cosmic [0]. It seems like that one might get the balance right. I tried compiling Cosmic on source on Debian 12. I ran out of memory on the VM I was doing it on. I also found out that on Debian 12 their rustc was broken!

saubeidl 1y ago
Do you think GNOME has similar UI issues? In my view, it's "pretty", but just doesn't let me configure it the way I want it to without hacking around way too much.
- Flamingoat 1y ago
  Yes. I agree. Gnome is kinda weird OOTB. I ended up installing Dash To Dock and Ubuntu App Indicator Icons when I was using it and I ended up with something decent. I also usually have to faff around in the gnome tweaks tool to get the old "legacy" apps and the new apps looking consistent.
touggourt 1y ago
I use KDE on Debian and found it is well packaged