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im not sure about anyone else, but I can tell when a human has pick/packed my order, and the product is always better for it.

echoangle 1y ago
> im not sure about anyone else, but I can tell when a human has pick/packed my order, and the product is always better for it. How would you verify that your belief is correct?
kulahan 1y ago
I don't think it's particularly surprising that humans are better at things than robots, sometimes even purpose-built robots. The question is if robots are good enough that the difference doesn't really matter. It's throwing shit in a box. Who cares how neat it is? As long as things arrive sealed and intact, it's fine.
- alexpotato 1y ago
  There was a great quote about robots in agriculture: "When it comes to olive picking, the best a robot can do is get 60% of the olives. Humans can do about ~80%. Robots are so much cheaper than humans that it makes sense to use the robot even with the 60/80 performance split."
aeblyve 1y ago
I don't really agree... I try to avoid handmade or artisanal things as they are inconsistent in quality and wildly expensive. Including in software.
- swiftcoder 1y ago
  > handmade or artisanal things as they are inconsistent in quality and wildly expensive. Including in software. Given that, as far as I can tell, most handmade artisanal software is given away for free (or nearly so), what are you basing that on?
  - aeblyve 1y ago
    The expense is in its deficiencies, which include (in my perception) plentiful long-tail bugs and issues, lack of flexibility, and in some cases lack of maintenance, as a single author can leave their work for whatever personal reason.
- jolt42 1y ago
  What is an example of artisanal software? ALL software can be copied.
  - aeblyve 1y ago
    I use "artisanal software" to refer to software written by small groups of individuals as opposed to larger organized groups.

echoangle 1y ago

> im not sure about anyone else, but I can tell when a human has pick/packed my order, and the product is always better for it. How would you verify that your belief is correct?

kulahan 1y ago

I don't think it's particularly surprising that humans are better at things than robots, sometimes even purpose-built robots. The question is if robots are good enough that the difference doesn't really matter. It's throwing shit in a box. Who cares how neat it is? As long as things arrive sealed and intact, it's fine.

alexpotato 1y ago
There was a great quote about robots in agriculture: "When it comes to olive picking, the best a robot can do is get 60% of the olives. Humans can do about ~80%. Robots are so much cheaper than humans that it makes sense to use the robot even with the 60/80 performance split."

aeblyve 1y ago

I don't really agree... I try to avoid handmade or artisanal things as they are inconsistent in quality and wildly expensive. Including in software.

swiftcoder 1y ago
> handmade or artisanal things as they are inconsistent in quality and wildly expensive. Including in software. Given that, as far as I can tell, most handmade artisanal software is given away for free (or nearly so), what are you basing that on?
- aeblyve 1y ago
  The expense is in its deficiencies, which include (in my perception) plentiful long-tail bugs and issues, lack of flexibility, and in some cases lack of maintenance, as a single author can leave their work for whatever personal reason.
jolt42 1y ago
What is an example of artisanal software? ALL software can be copied.
- aeblyve 1y ago
  I use "artisanal software" to refer to software written by small groups of individuals as opposed to larger organized groups.