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This seems like a flaw Amazon needs to fix. Incentivize the best behaviors. Or is there a perspective I don't see?

leptons 1y ago
How is it a flaw!? Building datacenters in different regions come with very different costs, and different costs to run. Power doesn't cost exactly the same in different regions. Local construction services are not priced exactly the same everywhere. Insurance, staff salaries, etc, etc... it all adds up, and it's not the same costs everywhere. It only makes sense that it would cost different amounts for the services run in different regions. Not sure how you're missing these easy to realize facts of life.
- AbstractH24 1y ago
  I think the cost of a day like Monday due to over relying on a single location outweighs that
  - leptons 1y ago
    What happened on Monday has nothing to do with why services cost different prices in different regions.
    - AbstractH24 1y ago
      No, but it does reflect the dangers of incentivizing everyone to use a single region. Most people (myself include) only choose it because its the cheapest. If multiple regions were the same price then there'd be less impact if one goes down.
      - leptons 1y ago
        The problems with us-east-1 have been apparent for a long time, many years. Once I started using us-east-1 long ago, and seeing the problems there, I moved everything to us-west-1 and stopped having those problems. EC2 instances were completely unreliable in us-east-1 (we were running hundreds to thousands at a time), not so in us-west-1. The error rates we were seeing were awful in us-east-1. A negligible cost difference shouldn't matter when your apps are unstable due to the region being problematic.
        AbstractH24 1y ago
        > A negligible cost difference shouldn't matter when your apps are unstable due to the region being problematic. agreed, but a sizable cohort of people don't have the foresight or incentives for think past their nose and clicking the cheapest option. So its on Amazon to incentivize what's best.
        leptons 1y ago
        People's lack of curiosity, enough to not even explore the other options, is not Amazon's problem.

How is it a flaw!? Building datacenters in different regions come with very different costs, and different costs to run. Power doesn't cost exactly the same in different regions. Local construction services are not priced exactly the same everywhere. Insurance, staff salaries, etc, etc... it all adds up, and it's not the same costs everywhere. It only makes sense that it would cost different amounts for the services run in different regions. Not sure how you're missing these easy to realize facts of life.

AbstractH24 1y ago
I think the cost of a day like Monday due to over relying on a single location outweighs that
- leptons 1y ago
  What happened on Monday has nothing to do with why services cost different prices in different regions.
  - AbstractH24 1y ago
    No, but it does reflect the dangers of incentivizing everyone to use a single region. Most people (myself include) only choose it because its the cheapest. If multiple regions were the same price then there'd be less impact if one goes down.
    - leptons 1y ago
      The problems with us-east-1 have been apparent for a long time, many years. Once I started using us-east-1 long ago, and seeing the problems there, I moved everything to us-west-1 and stopped having those problems. EC2 instances were completely unreliable in us-east-1 (we were running hundreds to thousands at a time), not so in us-west-1. The error rates we were seeing were awful in us-east-1. A negligible cost difference shouldn't matter when your apps are unstable due to the region being problematic.
      - AbstractH24 1y ago
        > A negligible cost difference shouldn't matter when your apps are unstable due to the region being problematic. agreed, but a sizable cohort of people don't have the foresight or incentives for think past their nose and clicking the cheapest option. So its on Amazon to incentivize what's best.
        leptons 1y ago
        People's lack of curiosity, enough to not even explore the other options, is not Amazon's problem.