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For repeated commands, my projects have a Make/Just file that has cURL commands I wanna validate. Sometimes I even load JSON from a tests/fixtures/*.json file,

For repeated commands, my projects have a Make/Just file that has cURL commands I wanna validate. Sometimes I even load JSON from a tests/fixtures/*.json file, that also can be reused for other non-E2E tests. Not sure how some developers could be so allergic to the terminal, don't you already spend a lot of time there?

troupo 1y ago
Even those who spend a lot of time in the terminal are capable of recognizing its limitations.
Xenoamorphous 1y ago
> Not sure how some developers could be so allergic to the terminal, don't you already spend a lot of time there? Who says I'm allergic to the terminal? I already stated that I use curl. I could also ask why are some developers so allergic to any kind of UI. And they're very vocal about it. Just use whatever you want.
- CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
  > Who says I'm allergic to the terminal? I already stated that I use curl. Preferring "a couple of clicks" vs "run one command" seems to indicate so, otherwise I'm not sure why'd someone would prefer the former instead of the latter.
  - Xenoamorphous 1y ago
    I have dozens of collections with hundreds of requests, most sending complex payloads, all perfectly organised hierarchically. I'd rather use a collapsible UI for that, if you prefer to have hundreds of scripts in folders that's fine too. Actually I don't even create those collections, we have OpenAPI/Swagger docs for all of our APIs and I just import them with a couple of clicks (which I'm sure there's a way to do with curl). For the odd requests, and sharing requests with others? I use curl, no problem. I actually think I know it pretty well and very rarely need to look up any docs for it.
    - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
      > I'd rather use a collapsible UI for that, if you prefer to have hundreds of scripts in folders that's fine too. No, I don't (what a shitty strawman), I create abstractions then, like any other project. Surely you don't have hundreds of completely original and bespoke requests? Previously I've handled thousands of requests by having a .csv to load from.
      - Xenoamorphous 1y ago
        > Surely you don't have hundreds of completely original and bespoke requests? Absolutely I do. It’s not like a few hundred endpoints is out of the ordinary in any mid sized company. I can go an edit any of the requests with autoformatting, highlighting and whatnot. As I say, you can keep your csv and abstractions, not trying to convince you that you should switch from whatever works for you.

troupo 1y ago

Even those who spend a lot of time in the terminal are capable of recognizing its limitations.

Xenoamorphous 1y ago

> Not sure how some developers could be so allergic to the terminal, don't you already spend a lot of time there? Who says I'm allergic to the terminal? I already stated that I use curl. I could also ask why are some developers so allergic to any kind of UI. And they're very vocal about it. Just use whatever you want.

CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
> Who says I'm allergic to the terminal? I already stated that I use curl. Preferring "a couple of clicks" vs "run one command" seems to indicate so, otherwise I'm not sure why'd someone would prefer the former instead of the latter.
- Xenoamorphous 1y ago
  I have dozens of collections with hundreds of requests, most sending complex payloads, all perfectly organised hierarchically. I'd rather use a collapsible UI for that, if you prefer to have hundreds of scripts in folders that's fine too. Actually I don't even create those collections, we have OpenAPI/Swagger docs for all of our APIs and I just import them with a couple of clicks (which I'm sure there's a way to do with curl). For the odd requests, and sharing requests with others? I use curl, no problem. I actually think I know it pretty well and very rarely need to look up any docs for it.
  - CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
    > I'd rather use a collapsible UI for that, if you prefer to have hundreds of scripts in folders that's fine too. No, I don't (what a shitty strawman), I create abstractions then, like any other project. Surely you don't have hundreds of completely original and bespoke requests? Previously I've handled thousands of requests by having a .csv to load from.
    - Xenoamorphous 1y ago
      > Surely you don't have hundreds of completely original and bespoke requests? Absolutely I do. It’s not like a few hundred endpoints is out of the ordinary in any mid sized company. I can go an edit any of the requests with autoformatting, highlighting and whatnot. As I say, you can keep your csv and abstractions, not trying to convince you that you should switch from whatever works for you.