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> The UI/UX is perfect While I like curl, this is highly subjective, some people just prefer a GUI that can guide you and/or be visually explored. This whole

by c0balt 1y ago

> The UI/UX is perfect While I like curl, this is highly subjective, some people just prefer a GUI that can guide you and/or be visually explored. This whole piece also reads like someone is quite angry at people preferring a different workflow than them. Some aspects, like shell history, are also not the magic bullet they propose here as it doesn't, e. G., cover the actual responses. Curl's ability to do almost everything is a minor curse here too as it means that any documentation (man pages, options help) is very large.

catapart 1y ago
Just fyi: the writing style is a meme. I think it's following the "just use html"[0] format (though, that may be its own riff on the meme). Not to detract from you point; just to say that the author is probably not as angry as this could make them seem. [0] https://justfuckingusehtml.com/ https://justfuckingusehtml.com/
- alt187 1y ago
  Thanks! I didn't know this gem, definitely saving it.
- c0balt 1y ago
  Thank you for that pointer/explanation. That does make the choice of words understandable to some extent even if it feels a bit excessive.
dlopes7 1y ago
Not to mention saving headers, tokens, doing multiple requests using the results from the previous, etc. This guy would say "just use bash" and ignore the average user experience.
- andoando 1y ago
  You can do all that in a shell script though
  - skydhash 1y ago
    That’s mostly what I do when I need to interact with an API: _plz() { curl [rest of common args] } Then: _plz GET endpoint
  - dns_snek 1y ago
    Of course you can, but shell scripting really fucking sucks. One moment you have a properly quoted JSON string, the next moment you have a list of arguments, oops you need to escape the value for this program to interpret it right, but another program needs it to be double-escaped, is that \, \\, or \\\\? What subset of shell scripting are we doing? Fish? modern Linux bash, macOS-compatible bash? The lowest common denominator? My head is spinning already! If I want to script something I'm writing Python these days. I've lost too much sleep over all the "interesting" WTF situations you get yourself into with shell scripting. I've never used Hurl but it's been on my radar and I think that's probably the sweet spot for tasks like this.
    - andoando 1y ago
      Ok agreed. But you can also just use any scripting language of your choice. Now you have a completely open development platform for your APIs. I guess parsing cmd line outputs would be annoying. Would be a worth while library to write
runjake 1y ago
> This whole piece also reads like someone is quite angry at people It’s a meme that originated with https://thebestmotherfucking.website/ https://thebestmotherfucking.website/ or one like it.

by c0balt 1y ago

catapart 1y ago

Just fyi: the writing style is a meme. I think it's following the "just use html"[0] format (though, that may be its own riff on the meme). Not to detract from you point; just to say that the author is probably not as angry as this could make them seem. [0] https://justfuckingusehtml.com/ https://justfuckingusehtml.com/

alt187 1y ago
Thanks! I didn't know this gem, definitely saving it.
c0balt 1y ago
Thank you for that pointer/explanation. That does make the choice of words understandable to some extent even if it feels a bit excessive.

dlopes7 1y ago

Not to mention saving headers, tokens, doing multiple requests using the results from the previous, etc. This guy would say "just use bash" and ignore the average user experience.

andoando 1y ago
You can do all that in a shell script though
- skydhash 1y ago
  That’s mostly what I do when I need to interact with an API: _plz() { curl [rest of common args] } Then: _plz GET endpoint
- dns_snek 1y ago
  Of course you can, but shell scripting really fucking sucks. One moment you have a properly quoted JSON string, the next moment you have a list of arguments, oops you need to escape the value for this program to interpret it right, but another program needs it to be double-escaped, is that \, \\, or \\\\? What subset of shell scripting are we doing? Fish? modern Linux bash, macOS-compatible bash? The lowest common denominator? My head is spinning already! If I want to script something I'm writing Python these days. I've lost too much sleep over all the "interesting" WTF situations you get yourself into with shell scripting. I've never used Hurl but it's been on my radar and I think that's probably the sweet spot for tasks like this.
  - andoando 1y ago
    Ok agreed. But you can also just use any scripting language of your choice. Now you have a completely open development platform for your APIs. I guess parsing cmd line outputs would be annoying. Would be a worth while library to write

runjake 1y ago

> This whole piece also reads like someone is quite angry at people It’s a meme that originated with https://thebestmotherfucking.website/ https://thebestmotherfucking.website/ or one like it.