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Wasn't Windows 7 doing this same stuff back in like 2009?

AlexandrB 1y ago
I think the liquid glass transparency is more complex than Aero - with curved glass objects distorting what's behind them significantly in some cases. Don't know how much more computationally intensive that is.
Gigachad 1y ago
Nah liquid glass isn't just transparency and gaussion blur, it refracts/bends light around the rims as well as a kind of sub pixel colour splitting on some elements like when you have a water droplet magnifying your screen.
- bathtub365 1y ago
  That sounds like maybe a few more multiplies and applying slightly different constants to different colour channels. There is no complex simulation happening.
- mikepurvis 1y ago
  Sounds like some computationally expensive, unnecessary bullshit.
- dontlaugh 1y ago
  Even an iGPU from a decade ago could handle that easily. There is some other problem with the new UI’s performance.
fujigawa 1y ago
If we follow the same pattern, iOS 27 and corresponding releases will be completely flat and look like Mac OS System 7. Chicago font wants to live another day. Windows 8 got some serious hate back in the day, it had some sound ideas that were implemented poorly, but no one could deny it was lightweight. It had the smallest memory footprint of all the modern Windowses IIRC.
- jval43 1y ago
  Unironically Mac OS 7/8/9 felt the best IMHO. Even though there were some missteps (the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Strip was awful) and 9.x got a bit overloaded towards the end. Mac OS X (and macOS still) never felt as good.
  - musicale 1y ago
    Apple's classic human interface guidelines were well thought out. They should consider (re)reading them sometime.
  - BoredPositron 1y ago
    Tiger was fine :D
    - dialup_sounds 1y ago
      Tiger still had that weird thing where half the apps were brushed metal for no apparent reason.
    - mikepurvis 1y ago
      A lot of people argue it peaked with snow leopard; that was consistent, performant, and feature complete, not yet overly influenced by mobile.

I think the liquid glass transparency is more complex than Aero - with curved glass objects distorting what's behind them significantly in some cases. Don't know how much more computationally intensive that is.

Gigachad 1y ago

Nah liquid glass isn't just transparency and gaussion blur, it refracts/bends light around the rims as well as a kind of sub pixel colour splitting on some elements like when you have a water droplet magnifying your screen.

bathtub365 1y ago
That sounds like maybe a few more multiplies and applying slightly different constants to different colour channels. There is no complex simulation happening.
mikepurvis 1y ago
Sounds like some computationally expensive, unnecessary bullshit.
dontlaugh 1y ago
Even an iGPU from a decade ago could handle that easily. There is some other problem with the new UI’s performance.

fujigawa 1y ago

If we follow the same pattern, iOS 27 and corresponding releases will be completely flat and look like Mac OS System 7. Chicago font wants to live another day. Windows 8 got some serious hate back in the day, it had some sound ideas that were implemented poorly, but no one could deny it was lightweight. It had the smallest memory footprint of all the modern Windowses IIRC.

jval43 1y ago
Unironically Mac OS 7/8/9 felt the best IMHO. Even though there were some missteps (the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Strip was awful) and 9.x got a bit overloaded towards the end. Mac OS X (and macOS still) never felt as good.
- musicale 1y ago
  Apple's classic human interface guidelines were well thought out. They should consider (re)reading them sometime.
- BoredPositron 1y ago
  Tiger was fine :D
  - dialup_sounds 1y ago
    Tiger still had that weird thing where half the apps were brushed metal for no apparent reason.
  - mikepurvis 1y ago
    A lot of people argue it peaked with snow leopard; that was consistent, performant, and feature complete, not yet overly influenced by mobile.