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How are you going to gain core IP research if you don't have experience or access to leading edge researchers to pass you knowledge in the first place? Talent
by corimaith 1y ago
How are you going to gain core IP research if you don't have experience or access to leading edge researchers to pass you knowledge in the first place?
Talent is proportional to population, but that only matters if society and state has the infrastructure to raise that talent up. Otherwise Nigeria or Indonesia would be scientific powerhouses, and Iran would have modern fighter jets.
- Cyph0n 1y ago> Otherwise Nigeria or Indonesia would be scientific powerhouses, and Iran would have modern fighter jets. The reason why these statements are not true is because of colonization, delayed industrialization, and Western intervention post-independence. Getting out of this “quicksand” is exceedingly difficult. China did well to industrialize quickly and keep intervention at bay - in fact, you could argue that it making the rest of the world reliant on its industrial capacity helped address the intervention problem.
- wagwang 1y agoThis world view is just wrong from top to bottom. Between 1945-1970, China was in a much worser state that any of those 3rd world countries in many aspects. Are you saying post 1970, the reason why these countries did not develop as fast as china is because of colonialism and intervention? You can apply the same arguments to Japan in 45 and Korea in 50. But but but aid? Ok and we send billions to countries all around the world every year.
- Cyph0n 1y agoBut I just pointed out that China is an exception? Also, China had access to human capital at a scale that no African country had. Japan pre-45 was a world power, and had industrialized by the early 1900s. WW2 was a mere setback. Korea is more of a “miracle” than Japan was, but they also did well to industrialize ASAP. They also didn’t face the brunt of European colonialism.
- shakow 1y ago> They also didn’t face the brunt of European colonialism. But they faced the brunt of Chinese & Japanese colonialism, and a full-blown civil war after which their GDP per capita was in the same ballpark as Kenya's.
- Cyph0n 1y agoYes, they did well given the odds.
- wagwang 1y agoLots of miracles and exceptions in a working theory
- heavyset_go 1y agoChina wasn't beholden to neoliberalism and the World Bank and IMF. China made the right choice to dump a ton of resources into different industries without the expectation of immediate RoI or any RoI at all. Anyone or anything that got in the way of their goals were dealt with.
- markdown 1y agoAid is the single largest barrier to development and progress over the long term.
- dontlaugh 1y ago“Those who come with wheat, millet, corn or milk, they are not helping us. Those who really want to help us can give us ploughs, tractors, fertilizers, insecticides, watering cans, drills and dams. That is how we would define food aid.” ― Thomas Sankara
- dontlaugh 1y agoYes. Imperialism (as a system of extracting wealth from poor countries) continues to exist, but China has a working countermeasure. You can see similar with Vietnam.
- wagwang 1y agoSure if you water down the term of imperialism then yes. It is then incumbent on you to prove "imperialism" among the worst performers economically. What imperialism plagues liberia and ethiopia and honduras and papua new guinea
- heavyset_go 1y agoPapau New Guinea was ravaged by imperialism, invaded by imperial Japan and then was a meat grinder warfront in WWII. It was controlled by Australia since then. Similarly in WWI, it was invaded by Australia and only gained independence in 1975. Before that, it was split between Germany, the British and Dutch. Before that, its population was impressed and blackbirded by European traders. Like cargo cults literally developed there lol
- wagwang 1y agoSo what, china in 1975 was a completely destroyed country, comparable to north korea
- heavyset_go 1y agoYou asked what imperialism affected Papau New Guinea and I answered you. I'm not making an argument or addressing anything other than that from your post.