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AI Slop is taking over Spotify
- tjr 1y agoHow about vinyl? How much AI slop is being pressed onto vinyl records?
- spcebar 1y agoI would imagine not very much? The people buying vinyl are buying as a collectors item or because of its audio qualities. It's very easy to accidentally listen to something that's AI generated, you have to very actively purchase a vinyl. It also costs virtually nothing to get music on Spotify but is relatively expensive to get anything on vinyl.
- rchaud 1y agoZero. Vinyl has costs of production, AI slop doesn't.
- hedora 1y agoNot zero: https://www.reddit.com/r/fantanoforever/comments/1jnf82d/guy_gets_fully_ai_generated_album_pressed_on_vinyl/ https://www.reddit.com/r/fantanoforever/comments/1jnf82d/guy... On a related note, my vinyl collection is looking more and more prescient over time. If streaming gets sufficiently bad, I’ll just spend the subscription fee on newly released records, and artists will get a lot more than they do now.
- jsheard 1y agoThe same thing is happening on YouTube, my recs are stuffed full of obviously AI generated music compilations lately. It's obvious from the volume those channels are posting (often ~3 hours of "new" music every single day) that little to no curation is happening, it's just elemental slop straight from the firehose.
- WXLCKNO 1y agoAgreed, on YouTube the AI slop music has been trending even more. I hadn't experienced it on Spotify however and only last month they had stated that AI music would be tagged as such.
- rhetocj23 1y agoMy personal consumption of YT has dropped pretty sharply - I only go on there for specific content that I personally pick out myself. The recommendations have become really bad progressively IME over the past 2 years.
- netsharc 1y agoI think they've tiktokified everything, hoping to catch you with some bait. Including the search results page, you get maybe 5 relevant videos and then the viral stuff. I say "I think" because I've also ended up activating the content filter in my brain and stopping myself from looking further when I notice "Oh this part of the site has viral infection". Perhaps it's better with history enabled?
- randycupertino 1y agoI've had so many AI-created movie trailers on youtube lately it is so annoying. Just yesterday I searched for an upcoming movie "The Chronology of Water" trailer and get this fake ai trailer which I watched unknowingly thinking "wow this trailer sucks" just to later find the disclaimer "Please note that this video is a concept trailer created solely for artistic and entertainment purposes. I have meticulously incorporated various effects, sound design, AI technologies, film analytics, and other elements to bring my vision to life."
- rhetocj23 1y agoWould be pretty ironic if AI destroys the value attributed to the brand name of these firms who are not policing the mounting slop.
- hedora 1y agos/ironic/predictable/
- Narciss 1y agoI love making AI music. Sometimes I freestyle rap over instrumentals that I’ve created with AI, record myself and then use that recording to create an AI song. Some of the songs I really love, like this one: https://suno.com/s/o4oyu5Eq7nMdQyzK https://suno.com/s/o4oyu5Eq7nMdQyzK There’d be more to say - but of course, creating songs without regard to their quality or your input in them is slop that shouldn’t be shared.
- Narciss 1y agoHere’s another: https://suno.com/s/v3LuDD9SjVPohVB7 https://suno.com/s/v3LuDD9SjVPohVB7
- rhetocj23 1y agoI listened to both and they both sounded soul-less.
- gfehhffvvv 1y agoSeemed adequately soulful to me. Not my favorite, but better than I could do. As another bit of anecdata.
- Narciss 1y agoThx
- Narciss 1y agoDepends on what you mean by souless. According to the textbook definition, as someone who’s been into music production for more than 20 years in one capacity or another, and that has listened to innumerable songs across every genre imaginable, agree to disgree. Not to your liking sure, maybe you think it even sucks. But souless nah
- rhetocj23 1y agoI did not feel anything when listening to the song. The purpose of music is to move oneself, particularly emotionally. As an example to represent the point - this is known to put many on the verge of tears/in a stream of tears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxNbZLh0PaA&list=RDWxNbZLh0PaA&start_radio=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxNbZLh0PaA&list=RDWxNbZLh0P...
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- rchaud 1y agoSpotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Slowly ramp up the AI slop while ramping down the label-owned material and hope subscribers don't notice. It's a play that worked for Netflix, which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.
- randycupertino 1y agoI noticed music in TV shows is AI slop so they don't have to pay licensing fees lately as well. I was watching Unsolved the series about the Notorious BIG and Tupac murders a few weeks ago and in one of the club scenes a "Biggie" song that I'd never heard of was playing in the background, I wasn't familiar with that song so I googled it and it was an ai Biggie inspired recreation, not one of his actual songs.
- rchaud 1y agoThat's awful. Stuff like this is why I mourn the loss of MTV and VH1; they would actually license artists' music in their Behind the Music documentary episodes, I discovered a lot of artists that way. The Beavis & Butthead and Daria shows in the '90s also used a lot of licensed music. When the DVD versions arrived in the mid-2000s, the music was removed and replaced by stock instrumentals; I'm not sure the torrents of the original versions are even being seeded anymore.
- SpecialistK 1y agoI found the Daria Restoration Project online a few years ago. Haven't watched it yet, because the quality is more in line with 2000s Limewire DivX files. But if I do decide to watch the show, it should be with the original music.
- randycupertino 1y ago> When the DVD versions arrived in the mid-2000s, the music was removed and replaced by stock instrumentals; That's so annoying- that can replace the entire feel of a scene! In the Unsolved instance I was annoyed because I was like, huh, I don't know this song let me go check it out, I thought I knew his whole catalogue! and then it was frustrating that it was just "him" singing some nonsense fake song. Just eery how they used an identical sounding voice too.
- matesz 1y agoTangent to this, some AI software is good for to experimentation. Here is an excellent example - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=alb_ZFHVXCU https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=alb_ZFHVXCU
- yndoendo 1y agoAI slop is starting to remind me of Atari in the early 80s that lead up to the video game crash of 1983. Content saturation of the lowest form in quality pushed to make money.
- Zopieux 1y agoMost people love making AI music by throwing a 5-word prompt at Suno and being in awe at "their" creation. However, it is also a fact that the vast majority of people can't care less to listen to their friends' and family's Sunos, as they were not involved in the process and therefore can't vibe to the random soul-less soup. Please keep your slop for yourself.
- Dig1t 1y agoTo be honest I’ve been having the opposite experience. There are lots of cool niche playlists on YouTube that cater to specific ideas. Like “40’s gangster jazz”, or “studying in the Hogwarts library”, etc It’s the majority of what I listen to lately and it’s been pretty good. On a related note, I was working with someone recently and he put on a jazz playlist he found on YouTube. We both enjoyed the music and neither of us realized it was AI until about halfway through the playlist. I don’t think it’s a big deal that it’s AI, as long as you enjoy the music.
- WXLCKNO 1y agoI find it less offensive on YouTube honestly. Those playlists you mention specifically are like a novelty that you can explore for fun. But on Spotify when it gets shoved onto your playlists without warning..
- tayo42 1y agoMost people wont listen to your music when you make it your self too
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- gdulli 1y agoWe're being both figuratively and literally boiled alive by what AI is doing to our civilization.
- hedora 1y agoI’ve been using tidal since forever because Spotify’s recommendations were crap, and Apple Music’s weren’t good. I think I’ve heard one AI slop thing in my daily discovery queue, once. It’s hard to say if that one track was ai slop or not, given my tastes (I downloaded Poppy, Music to Scream To, for example).
- randycupertino 1y agoSpotify recommended me a song I kind of liked "What's the Matter with John Brown" by a band called The Roux and when I googled it to get more info about the band I found a thread on reddit /r/music discussing whether or not it was AI music. https://www.reddit.com/r/AI_Music/comments/1m522g2/is_this_an_ai_band/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AI_Music/comments/1m522g2/is_this_a... I still haven't figured out if it's AI or not but there is no info about the band online, touring show details, photos etc, so I am leaning towards it is a fake AI band. It would be nice if AI-music was watermarked in some way so we could filter it out. For audible (for now, until Audible kills it!) there is a chrome and firefox extension called "devirtualizer" that removes all AI-narrated books from your results: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/devirtualizeaudible/fegkpndgbjchmippoedipimhnedijfla?hl=en https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/devirtualizeaudible...
- Barrin92 1y agoone thing that I've never regretted, and is paying dividends, is that I've been buying and collecting physical music since I was a teen and grown my own library. Thankfully I have a lot of music buffs in my family who encouraged it. What I do is pick one or two dozen records at the beginning of the year and limit myself to them, listen actively instead of just putting it on, don't just treat it like noise. Don't need to bother with any subscription service or AI bs. Even before the AI slop if you looked at the numbers, random influencer crap was much more heavily promoted than some of the greatest music in human history, there's such a recency bias in the entire streaming industry.
- gs17 1y agoI had no idea how bad it had gotten, since none of it was being shown to me. Then a friend sent me his AI music on Spotify, I listened, and my recommendations were all AI for my usual genres suddenly. It's like they have a flag for your account that says "we can save money, this guy will listen to the cheap stuff".
- MadVikingGod 1y agoThe AI songs do suck, but what's even worse is that I can't block artists on Spotify or YouTube. My only recourse was to down vote each song individually, which didn't prevent the songs from showing up, just "Showed my preference". I don't know what service is safe, but it seems like the incentives for the companies is not to direct me to what I want, real people performing music.
- ebilodeau 1y agoIn Spotify, the artist page should have a “don’t play this artist” option under the 3-dot menu.
- jmkozko 1y agoI've switched to Deezer because of this. They're making an effort to keep the simulacra under control and prevent it from polluting recommendations. https://en.deezercommunity.com/product-updates/deezer-just-rolled-out-the-world-s-first-ai-music-tagging-system-80852 https://en.deezercommunity.com/product-updates/deezer-just-r...
- chasing0entropy 1y agoSelf host + jellyfin is an easy response. I haven't seen an ad or paid to stream my music in 15 years. Vote with your wallet.
- WXLCKNO 1y agoI've for Plex + PlexAmp for music , does jellyfin have a good mobile app for audio?
- chasing0entropy 1y agoPlex doesn't run without an account, isn't remotely accessible from a firewall isolated server, and requires a license :( Finamp and jellyfin, the PWA is also solid.