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Yep. Fuck those of us who take two hours to fall asleep because that's just the way we are. Useless people the lot of us. eagerly awaiting all the suggestions

by tensor 1y ago

Yep. Fuck those of us who take two hours to fall asleep because that's just the way we are. Useless people the lot of us. eagerly awaiting all the suggestions for why I just need to do X or Y to get to sleep. Definitely haven't tried those!

boston_clone 1y ago
I'll bite. Never did I ever meet anyone in the military that needed "two hours" to fall asleep when they had adequate physical exercise throughout the day. If you're undiagnosed by a clinical physician for a disorder and have that issue, you're either sleeping too much, consuming too many stimulants, or not getting enough physical exercise. What's your exercise routine like?
- smallnix 1y ago
  > Never did I ever meet anyone in the militar The military disqualifies people with severe sleep disorders.. Nice survivor bias example. Note, I can't speak to this particular case.
  - boston_clone 1y ago
    Then why are you speaking to this particular case? Having a sleep disorder is not an immediate disqualifier for service, either. Did you serve in the military, or are you just throwing out more conjecture?
    - smallnix 1y ago
      I was disqualified by the military from serving solely because of my sleep disorder.
      - boston_clone 11mo ago
        Interesting! And could you share more about what methods your doctor has recommended to alleviate those symptoms and their efficacy for your case?
vorpalhex 1y ago
Well backed RCTs have generally shown >95% of sleep issues are solvable, with sleep hygiene (this means using your bed only for sleep and sex, keeping your room dark and quiet eg no blinking leds, and getting up and getting light exposure if you don't fall asleep in 20 mins) resolving ~70% of cases. Anxiety treatments resolved most of the rest. You could be in that last 5%! But that is extremely unlikely. Cut caffeine and alcohol entirely, turn off lamps and hide your phone two hours before bed, read a paper book or write in a paper journal.
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- boston_clone 1y ago
  and seriously, EXERCISE. I think many of us here may equate intense thinking with "work", and completely neglect the physical component of our bodies; we are literally evolved to engage in strenuous physical activity yet remain sedentary. plus, there is a positive feedback loop between aerobic exercise and mental health.
- _dain_ 11mo ago
  >getting up and getting light exposure if you don't fall asleep in 20 mins never heard of this one, got a link with more info?

by tensor 1y ago

boston_clone 1y ago

I'll bite. Never did I ever meet anyone in the military that needed "two hours" to fall asleep when they had adequate physical exercise throughout the day. If you're undiagnosed by a clinical physician for a disorder and have that issue, you're either sleeping too much, consuming too many stimulants, or not getting enough physical exercise. What's your exercise routine like?

smallnix 1y ago
> Never did I ever meet anyone in the militar The military disqualifies people with severe sleep disorders.. Nice survivor bias example. Note, I can't speak to this particular case.
- boston_clone 1y ago
  Then why are you speaking to this particular case? Having a sleep disorder is not an immediate disqualifier for service, either. Did you serve in the military, or are you just throwing out more conjecture?
  - smallnix 1y ago
    I was disqualified by the military from serving solely because of my sleep disorder.
    - boston_clone 11mo ago
      Interesting! And could you share more about what methods your doctor has recommended to alleviate those symptoms and their efficacy for your case?

vorpalhex 1y ago

Well backed RCTs have generally shown >95% of sleep issues are solvable, with sleep hygiene (this means using your bed only for sleep and sex, keeping your room dark and quiet eg no blinking leds, and getting up and getting light exposure if you don't fall asleep in 20 mins) resolving ~70% of cases. Anxiety treatments resolved most of the rest. You could be in that last 5%! But that is extremely unlikely. Cut caffeine and alcohol entirely, turn off lamps and hide your phone two hours before bed, read a paper book or write in a paper journal.

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boston_clone 1y ago
and seriously, EXERCISE. I think many of us here may equate intense thinking with "work", and completely neglect the physical component of our bodies; we are literally evolved to engage in strenuous physical activity yet remain sedentary. plus, there is a positive feedback loop between aerobic exercise and mental health.
_dain_ 11mo ago
>getting up and getting light exposure if you don't fall asleep in 20 mins never heard of this one, got a link with more info?