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Fury Mounts over a Global A.I. Frenzy
- firehose 1y agoWhy we need fusion?
- antinomicus 1y agoSure, that, plus the catastrophic cumulative effects of anthropogenic climate disruption, that will render large swaths of the planet uninhabitable, resulting in billions of climate refugees, that we’re likely already locked in / inevitably going to see in the not too distant future.
- moneycantbuy 1y agoMegacorps are driving up energy prices for everyone, locals seem powerless to stop these environmentally destructive data centers from draining the water table. All so the magnificent 7 can attempt to capture any remaining attention we have left.
- strict9 1y agoIn the past large developments would win over local government support with promises of jobs and investment in the local economy. Now the only promises are a strained grid, higher energy bills and loud noise. It doesn't help that AI has been falsely attributed as the reason to lay people off in the past few years by CEOs who are actually just cutting costs or moving jobs offshore. This situation probably gets worse before it gets better for the companies deploying new data centers.
- semiquaver 1y agoWhy can’t the water for cooling these be a closed-loop system?
- JadeNB 1y agoMaybe I'm being overly simplistic, but water that's been used once for cooling can't be used again until something else, possibly time or other natural processes, has cooled the water itself off, right?
- voakbasda 1y agoOne option would be to install a water cooling system in the loop. Sure, that could easily double the facility’s power requirements, but that’s better than depleting limited water resources. Any power capacity built out for AI will likely find other uses if/when that bubble pops.
- wiml 1y agoThe water loop is the cooling system. If you had a way to get rid of the heat from this new cooling system you could have just used it directly in the first place.
- m4rtink 1y agoI think it is just cheaper as long as you have cheap/free water you can evaporate. Otherwise you would have to have to run a closed loop cooling system using regular AC tech (eg. some low boiling point liquid at low pressure, compressor, evaporator/condenser), that would be presumably more expensive to operate (but would not need lots of water to evaporate when operating).
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoHow do you cool the closed loop?
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- moneycantbuy 1y agohttps://archive.is/bmlfB https://archive.is/bmlfB
- tim333 1y agoThere does seem a bit of a misallocation of capital. It would be different if people really wanted most of the AI stuff.