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I learned a while back that Hammurabi's Code contained a proto-building code, in that a builder whose building collapsed and harmed its occupant could be punish

I learned a while back that Hammurabi's Code contained a proto-building code, in that a builder whose building collapsed and harmed its occupant could be punished in a similar way. However the occupant was still harmed. Individuals must have a complete context for the environment in which they operate in order to build "correctly." Permit reviews, building codes etc. codify that context so that builders don't need to carry the entire system context, even if they could, which often they can't. And as a result, buildings don't randomly fall over or catch fire with nearly the same frequency as they used to

potato3732842 1y ago
>Individuals must have a complete context for the environment in which they operate in order to build "correctly." Permit reviews, building codes etc. codify that context so that builders don't need to carry the entire system context, even if they could, which often they can't. What a backwards explanation. I've seen straighter shooting logic from politicians. If not for the complex "system" these people would not have all this complex context to track. The system literally makes work that would not exist by being complex. > And as a result, buildings don't randomly fall over or catch fire with nearly the same frequency as they used to And we are just supposed to believe that this is the regulatory system and nothing to do with technological advances in materials and methods. It's not like there's a control group. For all we know if one existed it may have done better and the system is slowing advancement rather than mandating it.
- 0_____0 1y ago
  I didn't explain clearly enough, my bad. The complexity I'm talking about is not bureaucratic in nature, it's the result of complexity in our environment. Let's take a parallel example of a business - a individual contributor generally exists somewhere in a management hierarchy, with each person in the hierarchy having a different context they must stay aware of in order to do their work. There is extra bureaucratic complexity on top of that, some of which sucks and doesn't need to exist, but I'm not talking about that.
  - potato3732842 1y ago
    The world isn't a mysterious black box. The people doing things understand their inputs and outputs well enough they don't need to be micromanaged. I thinks it speaks volumes about the fact that you choose an IC as an example. Software is the ultimate example of an industry where a few people can get pretty far without the overhead of "checking everything all the time".
    - RLAIF 1y ago
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potato3732842 1y ago

>Individuals must have a complete context for the environment in which they operate in order to build "correctly." Permit reviews, building codes etc. codify that context so that builders don't need to carry the entire system context, even if they could, which often they can't. What a backwards explanation. I've seen straighter shooting logic from politicians. If not for the complex "system" these people would not have all this complex context to track. The system literally makes work that would not exist by being complex. > And as a result, buildings don't randomly fall over or catch fire with nearly the same frequency as they used to And we are just supposed to believe that this is the regulatory system and nothing to do with technological advances in materials and methods. It's not like there's a control group. For all we know if one existed it may have done better and the system is slowing advancement rather than mandating it.

0_____0 1y ago
I didn't explain clearly enough, my bad. The complexity I'm talking about is not bureaucratic in nature, it's the result of complexity in our environment. Let's take a parallel example of a business - a individual contributor generally exists somewhere in a management hierarchy, with each person in the hierarchy having a different context they must stay aware of in order to do their work. There is extra bureaucratic complexity on top of that, some of which sucks and doesn't need to exist, but I'm not talking about that.
- potato3732842 1y ago
  The world isn't a mysterious black box. The people doing things understand their inputs and outputs well enough they don't need to be micromanaged. I thinks it speaks volumes about the fact that you choose an IC as an example. Software is the ultimate example of an industry where a few people can get pretty far without the overhead of "checking everything all the time".
  - RLAIF 1y ago
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