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No, I'm not mistaken. > their word choice and approach made clear their disapproval or disagreement with their interlocutor. Certainly it's disapproval, but t

by jibal 1y ago

No, I'm not mistaken. > their word choice and approach made clear their disapproval or disagreement with their interlocutor. Certainly it's disapproval, but this is a non sequitur that doesn't contradict my statement. Note that he wrote > It’s a sad commentary on western culture that being in a movie seemingly has the importance that it seems to. ... again stating that it matters to people. He's sad that it does. I simply pointed out that he didn't say that it doesn't matter--I didn't pass judgment on whether he's correct. I won't respond further to people so confused about the clear meaning and logic of a comment. P.S. > Have you considered the distinct possibility that you might be honestly wrong also? Good grief ... I certainly won't deal with this sort of extremely bad faith offensive whataboutism. Of course I consider whether I might be wrong, on every single occasion. > HN isn’t a place for adversarial tones, so take your bad attitude and ill manner with you as you go. Is it even possible to be more hypocritical than this?

aspenmayer 1y ago
Have you considered the distinct possibility that you might be honestly wrong also? Cultural artifacts such as films are as legitimate as the letters and scratchings thereof. It’s a fine thing that folks use the tools at their disposal to communicate the meaning of the days and times. > > has the importance that it seems to. > ... again stating that it matters to people. He's sad that it does. I simply pointed out that he didn't say that it doesn't matter--I didn't pass judgment on whether he's correct. It’s fine and good that movies move people. It’s easier to find fault than it is to build, and I take issue with your suggestion that motion pictures don’t matter, the implication being that you both know better, and I am saddened myself to see folks discount their importance to individuals and to the wider culture. > I won't respond further to people so confused about the clear meaning and logic of a comment. To withdraw from a discussion is fine, but to declare victory as if this is an argument tips your hand. HN isn’t a place for adversarial tones, so take your bad attitude and ill manner with you as you go. P.S. if you want to reply to this comment, make a new reply (click the timestamp). You’ve been editing away, but I’m only responding upthread, whereas you are replying below, which is bad faith, the same you baselessly accuse me of.

by jibal 1y ago

aspenmayer 1y ago

Have you considered the distinct possibility that you might be honestly wrong also? Cultural artifacts such as films are as legitimate as the letters and scratchings thereof. It’s a fine thing that folks use the tools at their disposal to communicate the meaning of the days and times. > > has the importance that it seems to. > ... again stating that it matters to people. He's sad that it does. I simply pointed out that he didn't say that it doesn't matter--I didn't pass judgment on whether he's correct. It’s fine and good that movies move people. It’s easier to find fault than it is to build, and I take issue with your suggestion that motion pictures don’t matter, the implication being that you both know better, and I am saddened myself to see folks discount their importance to individuals and to the wider culture. > I won't respond further to people so confused about the clear meaning and logic of a comment. To withdraw from a discussion is fine, but to declare victory as if this is an argument tips your hand. HN isn’t a place for adversarial tones, so take your bad attitude and ill manner with you as you go. P.S. if you want to reply to this comment, make a new reply (click the timestamp). You’ve been editing away, but I’m only responding upthread, whereas you are replying below, which is bad faith, the same you baselessly accuse me of.