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I wonder of you pre train on Hebrew and Arabic if it will find the similarities between the RTL writing direction. So many similar words. I guess both came from

I wonder of you pre train on Hebrew and Arabic if it will find the similarities between the RTL writing direction. So many similar words. I guess both came from Aramaic? If so, how about the trifecta of ancient languages with Aramaic then Hebrew the Arabic.

ch4s3 1y ago
They don’t come from Aramaic, Arabic is a Southwestern Semitic language and Aramaic and Hebrew are Northwestern Semitic languages. Aramaic and Hebrew tree are sort of cousins with Hebrew splitting off from southern Canaanite which was sort of a siblings language with an older form of Aramaic.
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- nakamoto_damacy 1y ago
  They = Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic --- ## 1. “They all kept the triconsonantal root system — where word meaning is based on three core consonants (like K-T-B = “write” → Hebrew katav, Arabic kataba, Aramaic ktav).” *Source evidence:* * The article “Triliteral Roots / Consonantal Roots” states that many Semitic languages (including Arabic, Hebrew) have roots typically made of three consonants (triliteral) and that words are formed by inserting vowels, etc. ([Transparent Blogs][1]) * A source says: “Both Hebrew and Arabic rely on a triliteral root system, meaning words are formed from three core consonants. Example of the root K-T-B…” ([Biblical Hebrew][2]) * Another general description: “The roots of verbs and most nouns in the Semitic languages are characterized as a sequence of consonants ... such abstract consonantal roots are used…” ([Wikipedia][3]) So this claim is well supported. *Arabic translation of the claim:* > احتفظت جميعها بنظام الجذر الثلاثي الحروف — حيث يعتمد معنى الكلمة على ثلاثة حروف صامتة أساسية (مثل ك-ت-ب = “كتب/يكتب” → العبرية כתב (katav)، العربية كتب (kataba)، الآرامية כתَب (ktav)). *Hebrew translation of the claim:* > כולן שמרו על שיטת השורש התלת-עברי — שבה משמעות המילה מבוססת על שלושה עיצורים ל־(למשל כ־ת־ב = “כתב” → עברית כתב ( katav ), ערבית كتب ( kataba ), ארמית כתב ( ktav )). *Citations (for this claim):* * Semitic linguistics: “The roots of verbs and most nouns in the Semitic languages are characterized as a sequence of consonants …” ([Wikipedia][3]) * “Both Hebrew and Arabic rely on a triliteral root system, meaning words are formed from three core consonants.” ([Biblical Hebrew][2]) * Description of the K-T-B root being used in both Arabic and Hebrew. ([Wikipedia][4]) --- ## 2. “They share similar grammar and sound systems, just evolved differently.” *Source evidence:* * A blog post on Duolingo says: “Because Arabic and Hebrew are part of the same large language family, their grammars often ‘work’ in similar ways.” ([Duolingo Blog][5]) * A site “Arabic and Hebrew Compared” states: “Arabic and Hebrew morphology … is based on the consonant root system. …” ([Google Sites][6]) * The Wikipedia article on Semitic languages states that the Semitic languages share many grammatical features (word order, non-concatenative morphology, etc.) ([Wikipedia][7]) So yes, there is support for similar grammar and sound (phonological) systems. *Arabic translation of the claim:* > إنهما تشتركان في نحو وصوتيات متشابهة، רק تطورتا بشكل مختلف. *Hebrew translation of the claim:* > הן חולקות דקדוק ומערכות צלילים דומות, רק שהתפתחו באופן שונה. *Citations (for this claim):* * “Because Arabic and Hebrew … their grammars often ‘work’ in similar ways.” ([Duolingo Blog][5]) * “Arabic and Hebrew morphology … is based on the consonant root system.” ([Google Sites][6]) * “Semitic languages share a number of grammatical features …” ([Wikipedia][7]) --- ## 3. “Many religious and cultural interactions over millennia reinforced overlap (borrowed or re-borrowed vocabulary).” *Source evidence:* * The article “Similarities Between Hebrew and Arabic” mentions: “Many Hebrew and Arabic words are cognates, retaining similar meanings and sounds.” ([Biblical Hebrew][2]) * A blog “Halal, Hillul, and the Shared Meanings of Hebrew and Arabic” discusses relationships between similar sounding words (cognates) due to shared roots. ([Hebrew College][8]) * Comparative grammar sources mention that because Hebrew, Arabic and Aramaic are closely related, there has been lexical borrowing and shared vocabulary. ([semiticroots.net][9]) So your statement about religious/cultural interaction reinforcing overlap (vocabulary) is broadly supported. *Arabic translation of the claim:* > العديد من التفاعلات الدينية والثقافية عبر الألفيات عزَّزت التداخل (استعارت أو أعادت استعارة مفردات). *Hebrew translation of the claim:* > אינספור אינטראקציות דתיות ותרבותיות לאורך אלפי השנים חיזקו את ההשתלבות (השאלה או השאלה מחדש של אוצר מילים). *Citations (for this claim):* * “Many Hebrew and Arabic words are cognates …” ([Biblical Hebrew][2]) * “The relationships between similar-sounding words … in the case of the Semitic languages, similar roots.” ([Hebrew College][8]) * “Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic … than between Hebrew and any other language …” ([semiticroots.net][9]) --- [1]: https://blogs.transparent.com/hebrew/hebrew-grammar-consonantal-roots/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://blogs.transparent.com/hebrew/hebrew-grammar-consonan... "Hebrew Grammar: Consonantal Roots - Transparent Language Blog" [2]: https://biblicalhebrew.org/similarities-between-hebrew-and-arabic.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://biblicalhebrew.org/similarities-between-hebrew-and-a... "Similarities Between Hebrew and Arabic" [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_root?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_root?utm_source=chatgp... "Semitic root - Wikipedia" [4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-T-B?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-T-B?utm_source=chatgpt.com "K-T-B" [5]: https://blog.duolingo.com/are-arabic-hebrew-persian-related/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://blog.duolingo.com/are-arabic-hebrew-persian-related/... "Dear Duolingo: Are Arabic, Hebrew, and Persian related?" [6]: https://sites.google.com/site/mopclanguages/arabic-and-hebrew-compared?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://sites.google.com/site/mopclanguages/arabic-and-hebre... "MOPC Languages - Arabic and Hebrew Compared" [7]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages?utm_source=c... "Semitic languages" [8]: https://hebrewcollege.edu/blog/halal-hillul-and-the-shared-meanings-of-hebrew-and-arabic/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://hebrewcollege.edu/blog/halal-hillul-and-the-shared-m... "Halal, Hillul, and the Shared Meanings of Hebrew and Arabic" [9]: https://www.semiticroots.net/downloads/Comparative%20Grammar%20of%20the%20Semitic%20Languages.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.semiticroots.net/downloads/Comparative%20Grammar... "Comparative Grammar of the Semitic Languages"

ch4s3 1y ago

They don’t come from Aramaic, Arabic is a Southwestern Semitic language and Aramaic and Hebrew are Northwestern Semitic languages. Aramaic and Hebrew tree are sort of cousins with Hebrew splitting off from southern Canaanite which was sort of a siblings language with an older form of Aramaic.

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nakamoto_damacy 1y ago
They = Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic --- ## 1. “They all kept the triconsonantal root system — where word meaning is based on three core consonants (like K-T-B = “write” → Hebrew katav, Arabic kataba, Aramaic ktav).” *Source evidence:* * The article “Triliteral Roots / Consonantal Roots” states that many Semitic languages (including Arabic, Hebrew) have roots typically made of three consonants (triliteral) and that words are formed by inserting vowels, etc. ([Transparent Blogs][1]) * A source says: “Both Hebrew and Arabic rely on a triliteral root system, meaning words are formed from three core consonants. Example of the root K-T-B…” ([Biblical Hebrew][2]) * Another general description: “The roots of verbs and most nouns in the Semitic languages are characterized as a sequence of consonants ... such abstract consonantal roots are used…” ([Wikipedia][3]) So this claim is well supported. *Arabic translation of the claim:* > احتفظت جميعها بنظام الجذر الثلاثي الحروف — حيث يعتمد معنى الكلمة على ثلاثة حروف صامتة أساسية (مثل ك-ت-ب = “كتب/يكتب” → العبرية כתב (katav)، العربية كتب (kataba)، الآرامية כתَب (ktav)). *Hebrew translation of the claim:* > כולן שמרו על שיטת השורש התלת-עברי — שבה משמעות המילה מבוססת על שלושה עיצורים ל־(למשל כ־ת־ב = “כתב” → עברית כתב ( katav ), ערבית كتب ( kataba ), ארמית כתב ( ktav )). *Citations (for this claim):* * Semitic linguistics: “The roots of verbs and most nouns in the Semitic languages are characterized as a sequence of consonants …” ([Wikipedia][3]) * “Both Hebrew and Arabic rely on a triliteral root system, meaning words are formed from three core consonants.” ([Biblical Hebrew][2]) * Description of the K-T-B root being used in both Arabic and Hebrew. ([Wikipedia][4]) --- ## 2. “They share similar grammar and sound systems, just evolved differently.” *Source evidence:* * A blog post on Duolingo says: “Because Arabic and Hebrew are part of the same large language family, their grammars often ‘work’ in similar ways.” ([Duolingo Blog][5]) * A site “Arabic and Hebrew Compared” states: “Arabic and Hebrew morphology … is based on the consonant root system. …” ([Google Sites][6]) * The Wikipedia article on Semitic languages states that the Semitic languages share many grammatical features (word order, non-concatenative morphology, etc.) ([Wikipedia][7]) So yes, there is support for similar grammar and sound (phonological) systems. *Arabic translation of the claim:* > إنهما تشتركان في نحو وصوتيات متشابهة، רק تطورتا بشكل مختلف. *Hebrew translation of the claim:* > הן חולקות דקדוק ומערכות צלילים דומות, רק שהתפתחו באופן שונה. *Citations (for this claim):* * “Because Arabic and Hebrew … their grammars often ‘work’ in similar ways.” ([Duolingo Blog][5]) * “Arabic and Hebrew morphology … is based on the consonant root system.” ([Google Sites][6]) * “Semitic languages share a number of grammatical features …” ([Wikipedia][7]) --- ## 3. “Many religious and cultural interactions over millennia reinforced overlap (borrowed or re-borrowed vocabulary).” *Source evidence:* * The article “Similarities Between Hebrew and Arabic” mentions: “Many Hebrew and Arabic words are cognates, retaining similar meanings and sounds.” ([Biblical Hebrew][2]) * A blog “Halal, Hillul, and the Shared Meanings of Hebrew and Arabic” discusses relationships between similar sounding words (cognates) due to shared roots. ([Hebrew College][8]) * Comparative grammar sources mention that because Hebrew, Arabic and Aramaic are closely related, there has been lexical borrowing and shared vocabulary. ([semiticroots.net][9]) So your statement about religious/cultural interaction reinforcing overlap (vocabulary) is broadly supported. *Arabic translation of the claim:* > العديد من التفاعلات الدينية والثقافية عبر الألفيات عزَّزت التداخل (استعارت أو أعادت استعارة مفردات). *Hebrew translation of the claim:* > אינספור אינטראקציות דתיות ותרבותיות לאורך אלפי השנים חיזקו את ההשתלבות (השאלה או השאלה מחדש של אוצר מילים). *Citations (for this claim):* * “Many Hebrew and Arabic words are cognates …” ([Biblical Hebrew][2]) * “The relationships between similar-sounding words … in the case of the Semitic languages, similar roots.” ([Hebrew College][8]) * “Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic … than between Hebrew and any other language …” ([semiticroots.net][9]) --- [1]: https://blogs.transparent.com/hebrew/hebrew-grammar-consonantal-roots/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://blogs.transparent.com/hebrew/hebrew-grammar-consonan... "Hebrew Grammar: Consonantal Roots - Transparent Language Blog" [2]: https://biblicalhebrew.org/similarities-between-hebrew-and-arabic.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://biblicalhebrew.org/similarities-between-hebrew-and-a... "Similarities Between Hebrew and Arabic" [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_root?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_root?utm_source=chatgp... "Semitic root - Wikipedia" [4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-T-B?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-T-B?utm_source=chatgpt.com "K-T-B" [5]: https://blog.duolingo.com/are-arabic-hebrew-persian-related/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://blog.duolingo.com/are-arabic-hebrew-persian-related/... "Dear Duolingo: Are Arabic, Hebrew, and Persian related?" [6]: https://sites.google.com/site/mopclanguages/arabic-and-hebrew-compared?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://sites.google.com/site/mopclanguages/arabic-and-hebre... "MOPC Languages - Arabic and Hebrew Compared" [7]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages?utm_source=c... "Semitic languages" [8]: https://hebrewcollege.edu/blog/halal-hillul-and-the-shared-meanings-of-hebrew-and-arabic/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://hebrewcollege.edu/blog/halal-hillul-and-the-shared-m... "Halal, Hillul, and the Shared Meanings of Hebrew and Arabic" [9]: https://www.semiticroots.net/downloads/Comparative%20Grammar%20of%20the%20Semitic%20Languages.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.semiticroots.net/downloads/Comparative%20Grammar... "Comparative Grammar of the Semitic Languages"