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Every learning method you can think of has been thought of before and all variations have been implemented in classrooms throughout time. It is mostly pseudo-sc

Every learning method you can think of has been thought of before and all variations have been implemented in classrooms throughout time. It is mostly pseudo-science. You either put in the effort to learn and struggle until you succeed or you don't. There is no secret sauce.

wafflemaker 1y ago
I've met lot of smart guys never getting anywhere, because they were always looking for a shortcut and not to do the real work. Linux instructor Jason Canon wrote once that there's a lot of people who spend 90% of the time reading articles on how to learn Linux, but only 10% really practicing. OTOH it's a really cool way to stay focused and engaged with the lecture.
- billy99k 1y ago
  I've seen this a lot over the years and I've been guilty of it myself. I do still look at articles and find good stuff from it, but I've replaced it with paid courses that offer hands-on examples.
- criddell 1y ago
  I think a lot of writing online about productivity is like this. Some people seem to have a near endless appetite for writing on pens and notebooks, note taking systems, text editors, desk accesssories, every day carry, etc…
  - lazyasciiart 1y ago
    Yak-shaving.
brosco 1y ago
I'm not saying it's a learning method. And I don't see how anyone could mistake this for science, so why would it be pseudoscience? It's not really about effort either. It's just a trick that helps me pay attention in lectures, which a lot of people struggle with. Certainly you have to put the work outside of the classroom as well.
quacked 1y ago
This isn't true. I put in a great deal of effort in college and struggled to learn. After college I changed the way I interacted with information, and found that I could learn and remember orders of magnitude better by using studying and practice techniques that mapped more closely with how I thought about information.
- random9749832 1y ago
  Learning is a loop of reading/listening > applying/questioning. The rest is gobbledygook. And when I say learning, I mean understanding the material, not just remembering a bunch of information for an exam.
  - quacked 1y ago
    Your quote: > Every learning method you can think of has been thought of before and all variations have been implemented in classrooms throughout time. It is mostly pseudo-science. This is wrong. Not every "learning method" is pseudo-science, neither is comparison of the efficacy of different learning methods. As a trivial example, flat lecture and individual textbook reading is inferior to one-on-one discussion and tutoring with a native speaker if the aim is to learn a foreign language.
    - random9749832 1y ago
      You missed the keyword "mostly".
xmprt 1y ago
There are are a 100 different ways to struggle to learn. Some of them are better than others. I don't see how that's pseudoscience.
- random9749832 1y ago
  There are 100 different sources to learn from. And they certainly aren't as good as one another. There being 100 different ways to learn though is questionable.

wafflemaker 1y ago

I've met lot of smart guys never getting anywhere, because they were always looking for a shortcut and not to do the real work. Linux instructor Jason Canon wrote once that there's a lot of people who spend 90% of the time reading articles on how to learn Linux, but only 10% really practicing. OTOH it's a really cool way to stay focused and engaged with the lecture.

billy99k 1y ago
I've seen this a lot over the years and I've been guilty of it myself. I do still look at articles and find good stuff from it, but I've replaced it with paid courses that offer hands-on examples.
criddell 1y ago
I think a lot of writing online about productivity is like this. Some people seem to have a near endless appetite for writing on pens and notebooks, note taking systems, text editors, desk accesssories, every day carry, etc…
- lazyasciiart 1y ago
  Yak-shaving.

brosco 1y ago

I'm not saying it's a learning method. And I don't see how anyone could mistake this for science, so why would it be pseudoscience? It's not really about effort either. It's just a trick that helps me pay attention in lectures, which a lot of people struggle with. Certainly you have to put the work outside of the classroom as well.

quacked 1y ago

This isn't true. I put in a great deal of effort in college and struggled to learn. After college I changed the way I interacted with information, and found that I could learn and remember orders of magnitude better by using studying and practice techniques that mapped more closely with how I thought about information.

random9749832 1y ago
Learning is a loop of reading/listening > applying/questioning. The rest is gobbledygook. And when I say learning, I mean understanding the material, not just remembering a bunch of information for an exam.
- quacked 1y ago
  Your quote: > Every learning method you can think of has been thought of before and all variations have been implemented in classrooms throughout time. It is mostly pseudo-science. This is wrong. Not every "learning method" is pseudo-science, neither is comparison of the efficacy of different learning methods. As a trivial example, flat lecture and individual textbook reading is inferior to one-on-one discussion and tutoring with a native speaker if the aim is to learn a foreign language.
  - random9749832 1y ago
    You missed the keyword "mostly".

xmprt 1y ago

There are are a 100 different ways to struggle to learn. Some of them are better than others. I don't see how that's pseudoscience.

random9749832 1y ago
There are 100 different sources to learn from. And they certainly aren't as good as one another. There being 100 different ways to learn though is questionable.