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A top-down exertion of ideological power like this is terrible, it can't be the case that universities are bullied into toeing the line of whoever is in power a
by Levitz 1y ago
A top-down exertion of ideological power like this is terrible, it can't be the case that universities are bullied into toeing the line of whoever is in power at the moment, that much should be evident.
But surely it also can't be the case that colleges demand what are basically declarations of political allegiance in the form of DEI statements, institutional trust is nosediving and ideological capture is to blame in large part. I hope this push from the administration fails, but I also hope something changes because otherwise the result is going to be worse than if universities actually submitted to these demands.
- patagurbon 1y agoI am not in favor of mandated DEI statements outside of basic respect for students and colleagues, I’m not sure why that’s relevant or why you responded to me about it. Most universities have moved away from those.
- quotemstr 1y ago> Most universities have moved away from those. Whatever the mechanism, they remain echo chambers and continue to present, as the only truth, systems of thought that diverge from objective reality and that poison the public discourse.
- patagurbon 1y ago> whatever the mechanism Is straining to carry the rest of this sentence. I responded to an assertion that a policy by certain limited universities was attempted and deemed unfit by the natural process was still active. This is how institutions grow and evolve. > echo chambers Publish your papers, rebut the research. This is actively happening every day in every field of science. It is happening in everything from gender studies to particle physics. > poison the public discourse What on Earth are you talking about. What public discourse are you frequenting which is driven primarily by this boogeyman of the university system rather than the attention driven rat race of national fear politics.
- nickpsecurity 1y ago[flagged]
- hypeatei 1y ago> You can't on the topics they're talking about What topics? I have a hard time taking comments like this seriously as it reads like you have a persecution complex while your guy just got elected and he controls all three branches of government. Surely if conservatives actually cared about solving this existential problem, they'd gather input from everyone and write legislation for it? No?
- patagurbon 1y agoWho, what? Elaborate. Waving your hands like this is meaningless. What are these progressive views? What is this scientific evidence? Who are these people trying rigorously?
- grumio 1y agoWho are these people that are being cancelled, that have "scientific evidence" to contradict the "Progressive views"? What topics?
- Levitz 1y ago>I’m not sure why that’s relevant or why you responded to me about it. Because while I agree that >The pursuit of truth is difficult and has its pitfalls but it naturally leads to the dominance of certain viewpoints I'm certain that demanding essays from which you could perfectly predict voting patterns is not the mark of viewpoints that prioritize the pursuit of truth.
- patagurbon 1y agoAgain, I am not in favor of those things. I am perfectly happy for interviewees to be filtered for basic respect for people of all walks of life. I hope the reasoning there is obvious. Regardless governments must let the natural academic process handle these institutional issues.
- IncreasePosts 1y agoIs approval of affirmative action or DEI policies a mark of basic respect for people of all walks of life?
- baubino 1y agoIn the institutions I’m familiar with, DEI is basically a statement about respect for people from diverse backgrounds and the DEI committee is a couple of people who organize an annual cultural fair or something similar. It’s crazy to me how blown out of proportion that simple acronym has become over the last few years.
- Jensson 1y agoEverything gets judged by its worst members, you can't just say that it was fine were you are and then conclude it was fine everywhere.