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> Calling this a "slip-up" is an outrageous downplay. If anything this makes me suspicious of the moderator who posted the comment too. You're making an assump

> Calling this a "slip-up" is an outrageous downplay. If anything this makes me suspicious of the moderator who posted the comment too. You're making an assumption that this moderator is anything more than a Xubuntu enthusiast who wants to downplay outrage on Reddit. Keep in mind Xubuntu is mostly a community effort, not a large corporation with seniors who know how to handle this "best".

hamdingers 1y ago
I am not making any assumptions, you are failing to do research. Start by googling the username of the account. They are the Xubuntu Marketing and Website lead. This is the domain they are responsible for and, given their long history, they should know better.
- roryirvine 1y ago
  To what extent is Xubuntu affiliated with Ubuntu? This sort of thing must risk harming Canonical's reputation, so you'd think they'd want to use whatever leverage they have to enforce better practices.
  - AAAAaccountAAAA 1y ago
    It is an official flavor[1], that is, maintained as a community effort, but endorsed by Ubuntu. The related packages are hosted in Ubuntu's universe repository[2]. There is indeed a risk of reputation damage. 1. https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavors https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavors 2. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-desktop https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-desktop
- Vinnl 1y ago
  I used to be responsible for the Xubuntu.org website, way back when. I was a teenager back then. Which is to say, I'm fairly sure that they're still just a volunteer community member.
  - fragmede 1y ago
    Okay, they're not getting paid. That's worse! This gives them an incentive to be the one to inject malware to steal bitcoins because they haven't been compensated for all their hard work.
    - Vinnl 1y ago
      I think you might be in for a shock when you learn how many Xubuntu-sized projects rely on unpaid volunteers.
    - kjs3 1y ago
      So, of course, you stay far, far away from any open source software and their maintainders, since many/most of them don't get paid and are obviously nothing but one giant perverse incentive. Never use them right? Because we wouldn't want to think you're just a hypocrite dog-piling on someones bad day.
      - fragmede 1y ago
        lol l live on the edge and run curl | sudo bash and just hope and pray that it doesn't steal my crypto
        jakebasile 1y ago
        Can’t steal my crypto if I don’t have any in the first place.
Barrin92 1y ago
>Keep in mind Xubuntu is mostly a community effort, not a large corporation with seniors who know how to handle this "best". which is why the whole distro zoo and "stick it to the man" theatre has always been a nightmare. Running some barely maintained operating system that is an nth-degree spin-off is like buying a pacemaker from craigslist. The people who go "I don't trust Canonical/Google" and then go download some binary blob browser fork/OS uploaded by an anonymous guy from the internet is way too large.
- pessimizer 1y ago
  > which is why the whole distro zoo and "stick it to the man" theatre has always been a nightmare. The real obnoxiousness is that Ubuntu doesn't keep these desktop and otherwise specialized variants partially in-house like they once did. It isn't like they don't have the money or the staff. It's just not part of their world takeover plan anymore; no deviation allowed. Just get away from Ubuntu, install Debian, and choose XFCE when installing. Please.
  - aborsy 1y ago
    On the other hand, there are far few developers working on XFCE compared to desktop environments like KDE or gnome. The more obscure places might be better places to hide malware, nobody would notice, unlike in XUbuntu.
  - toyg 1y ago
    > It's just not part of their world takeover plan anymore That's because they don't have a world takeover plan anymore. That plan failed, so they came up with other ones (mobile! Subscriptions!) and those failed too - so now they're just trying to survive. I honestly prefer for Ubuntu to be just another Linux player doing what most Linux players do (i.e. looking after n.1 and focusing on internal consistency), rather than their original borg-like form that tried to co-opt the entire ecosystem. As much as I enjoy a reliable Debian-like infrastructure everywhere, there is value in the fundamental diversity of distros focused on different ways to "do Linux".
- waynesonfire 1y ago

hamdingers 1y ago

I am not making any assumptions, you are failing to do research. Start by googling the username of the account. They are the Xubuntu Marketing and Website lead. This is the domain they are responsible for and, given their long history, they should know better.

roryirvine 1y ago
To what extent is Xubuntu affiliated with Ubuntu? This sort of thing must risk harming Canonical's reputation, so you'd think they'd want to use whatever leverage they have to enforce better practices.
- AAAAaccountAAAA 1y ago
  It is an official flavor[1], that is, maintained as a community effort, but endorsed by Ubuntu. The related packages are hosted in Ubuntu's universe repository[2]. There is indeed a risk of reputation damage. 1. https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavors https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavors 2. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-desktop https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-desktop
Vinnl 1y ago
I used to be responsible for the Xubuntu.org website, way back when. I was a teenager back then. Which is to say, I'm fairly sure that they're still just a volunteer community member.
- fragmede 1y ago
  Okay, they're not getting paid. That's worse! This gives them an incentive to be the one to inject malware to steal bitcoins because they haven't been compensated for all their hard work.
  - Vinnl 1y ago
    I think you might be in for a shock when you learn how many Xubuntu-sized projects rely on unpaid volunteers.
  - kjs3 1y ago
    So, of course, you stay far, far away from any open source software and their maintainders, since many/most of them don't get paid and are obviously nothing but one giant perverse incentive. Never use them right? Because we wouldn't want to think you're just a hypocrite dog-piling on someones bad day.
    - fragmede 1y ago
      lol l live on the edge and run curl | sudo bash and just hope and pray that it doesn't steal my crypto
      - jakebasile 1y ago
        Can’t steal my crypto if I don’t have any in the first place.

Barrin92 1y ago

>Keep in mind Xubuntu is mostly a community effort, not a large corporation with seniors who know how to handle this "best". which is why the whole distro zoo and "stick it to the man" theatre has always been a nightmare. Running some barely maintained operating system that is an nth-degree spin-off is like buying a pacemaker from craigslist. The people who go "I don't trust Canonical/Google" and then go download some binary blob browser fork/OS uploaded by an anonymous guy from the internet is way too large.

pessimizer 1y ago
> which is why the whole distro zoo and "stick it to the man" theatre has always been a nightmare. The real obnoxiousness is that Ubuntu doesn't keep these desktop and otherwise specialized variants partially in-house like they once did. It isn't like they don't have the money or the staff. It's just not part of their world takeover plan anymore; no deviation allowed. Just get away from Ubuntu, install Debian, and choose XFCE when installing. Please.
- aborsy 1y ago
  On the other hand, there are far few developers working on XFCE compared to desktop environments like KDE or gnome. The more obscure places might be better places to hide malware, nobody would notice, unlike in XUbuntu.
- toyg 1y ago
  > It's just not part of their world takeover plan anymore That's because they don't have a world takeover plan anymore. That plan failed, so they came up with other ones (mobile! Subscriptions!) and those failed too - so now they're just trying to survive. I honestly prefer for Ubuntu to be just another Linux player doing what most Linux players do (i.e. looking after n.1 and focusing on internal consistency), rather than their original borg-like form that tried to co-opt the entire ecosystem. As much as I enjoy a reliable Debian-like infrastructure everywhere, there is value in the fundamental diversity of distros focused on different ways to "do Linux".
waynesonfire 1y ago