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Having casually attended one of these schools, I'm so confused about why they are even in this group. What is making this group of schools best suited for this

Having casually attended one of these schools, I'm so confused about why they are even in this group. What is making this group of schools best suited for this sort of blackmail?

patagurbon 1y ago
It does seem fairly arbitrary. It’s not a list of schools with big labs, since Hopkins or Berkeley aren’t there. It doesn’t seem to be private vs state schools, it’s not Ivy League or blue state only. One potential reason to select a diverse set would be to point to a few who may be forced to accept by their state governments as examples to paint the refusers in a negative light.
dboreham 1y ago
There's probably some piece on Fox News, or a blog post from some influencer that cites these institutions. Most regime policy begins with some media outrage like this. You and I aren't exposed to that content so it seems arbitrary. I first realized this decades ago when I ran into someone socially who started on about how evil the red cross was. I'm like wtf? Then did some research and discovered some fringe belief originating in the Vietnam war. There are thousands of oddball grievances like this.
- exceldrawing 1y ago
  > There's probably some piece on Fox News CNN published articles pushing the narrative that the 50 so called security experts believed Hunter's laptop was fake. It turned out to be true. CNN also famously had the two reporters standing in the same parking lot pretending to be in different geographic locations. Viewers called out their bullshit when the noticed the exact same traffic driving through the backgrounds of both reporters.
  - Valodim 1y ago
    Guess that makes them morally completely even then, is that your point? See also, whataboutism
  - dboreham 1y ago
    The sets of "news organizations fabricating stuff" and "news organizations generating specific fringe outrage stories for consumption by the administration" are overlapping. Yet those are distinct sets. The outrage-inducing specific stories don't even have to be fabricated. Just not really that important in the grand scheme of things.
  - BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
    Who cares about CNN? Who brought them up?
  - slater 1y ago
    > It turned out to be true. It didn't.
nobody9999 1y ago
>Having casually attended one of these schools, I'm so confused about why they are even in this group. What is making this group of schools best suited for this sort of blackmail? That's a great question. I wonder, shouldn't Oral Roberts University, Brigham Young University and other, similar institutions be required to be less biased in their ways too? If not, why not?

Having casually attended one of these schools, I'm so confused about why they are even in this group. What is making this group of schools best suited for this sort of blackmail?

patagurbon 1y ago

It does seem fairly arbitrary. It’s not a list of schools with big labs, since Hopkins or Berkeley aren’t there. It doesn’t seem to be private vs state schools, it’s not Ivy League or blue state only. One potential reason to select a diverse set would be to point to a few who may be forced to accept by their state governments as examples to paint the refusers in a negative light.

dboreham 1y ago

There's probably some piece on Fox News, or a blog post from some influencer that cites these institutions. Most regime policy begins with some media outrage like this. You and I aren't exposed to that content so it seems arbitrary. I first realized this decades ago when I ran into someone socially who started on about how evil the red cross was. I'm like wtf? Then did some research and discovered some fringe belief originating in the Vietnam war. There are thousands of oddball grievances like this.

exceldrawing 1y ago
> There's probably some piece on Fox News CNN published articles pushing the narrative that the 50 so called security experts believed Hunter's laptop was fake. It turned out to be true. CNN also famously had the two reporters standing in the same parking lot pretending to be in different geographic locations. Viewers called out their bullshit when the noticed the exact same traffic driving through the backgrounds of both reporters.
- Valodim 1y ago
  Guess that makes them morally completely even then, is that your point? See also, whataboutism
- dboreham 1y ago
  The sets of "news organizations fabricating stuff" and "news organizations generating specific fringe outrage stories for consumption by the administration" are overlapping. Yet those are distinct sets. The outrage-inducing specific stories don't even have to be fabricated. Just not really that important in the grand scheme of things.
- BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
  Who cares about CNN? Who brought them up?
- slater 1y ago
  > It turned out to be true. It didn't.

nobody9999 1y ago

>Having casually attended one of these schools, I'm so confused about why they are even in this group. What is making this group of schools best suited for this sort of blackmail? That's a great question. I wonder, shouldn't Oral Roberts University, Brigham Young University and other, similar institutions be required to be less biased in their ways too? If not, why not?