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> While some draft specifications could be released in 2027, the official Wi-Fi 8 standard is projected to be finalized only in mid-2028. Commercial products th

> While some draft specifications could be released in 2027, the official Wi-Fi 8 standard is projected to be finalized only in mid-2028. Commercial products that officially support the new standard are not expected to reach the market until late 2028 at the earliest. I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7. I upgraded my home setup to WiFi 7 a few weeks ago, and after being a WiFi hater for so long, was actually surprised at how much better it was over my previous experiences with WiFi. With MLO clients get 2-3ms latency with 2.5Gbit links, I'm all for WiFi 8 trying to reduce the latency further, I don't need more speed.

hulitu 1y ago
>I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7. No need to be left behind. They can already release WiFi 9 products. /s
Neywiny 1y ago
I have a computer with a 1G Ethernet phy designed before everything was ratified. Not great. I'll make sure to wait
halapro 1y ago
I don't need lower latency, I need better congestion management. WiFi in busy areas (like airports) sucks.
- IlikeKitties 1y ago
  I recently torrented a movie on a airport wifi while waiting for a plane and it worked so well, even when walking around the airport to the plane. I was impressed.
  - 2III7 1y ago
    Use a remote server for such vile behavior.
    - IlikeKitties 1y ago
      Nah, that's too much work, public wifi is great for that.
    - miyuru 1y ago
      can you explain why using torrents is vile behavior?
      - CuriousRose 1y ago
        Without a personal opinion one way or the other, I would assume the gripe is with congesting the public network as opposed to the choice of public domain documentaries you downloaded.
        cheschire 1y ago
        “Linux ISOs”
        IlikeKitties 1y ago
        Oh to be clear I illegally downloaded copyrighted works of major movie studios while they had just hit the streaming sites.
- piva00 1y ago
  I haven't encountered issues with airports' WiFi in many years, at least not the ones I fly from in Europe. What airports have you seen issues lately? It's one thing I haven't thought about in a long time.
- throw0101a 1y ago
  > WiFi in busy areas (like airports) sucks. This is part of what opening up the 6 GHz was about. But there are also provisions in newer standards like Target Wake Time: the client can be told to sleep for a while, not using radio spectrum (and also saving battery). * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah#Target_Wake_Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah#Target_Wake_Time OFDMA allows multiple clients to use the same frequency at the same time (using sub-channels): * https://airheads.hpe.com/blogs/antar1/2020/10/19/why-is-ofdma-a-magical-feature-in-80211ax-standard https://airheads.hpe.com/blogs/antar1/2020/10/19/why-is-ofdm... * https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/stories/detail/201 https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/stories/detail/201
- ChocolateGod 1y ago
  They're not necessarily different things. Increased latency can happen as a result of congestion on the band.
lazycatjumping 1y ago
> I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7. They must. Otherwise it cannot be tested within the labs. And producing chips before a standard is finalized is usually no problem at all: there are gates within the standardization process where the will be no more changes that are relevant for the silicon. These 802.11n-draft APs were a singular fuckup regarding this.
mikepurvis 1y ago
Similar transition for me. Basic dual AP setup that I took from first gen UAPs (wifi 4) to U7 Pro. I think I have only one client (a Lenovo laptop) that connects with wifi 7, but even the wifi 6 devices are screamers now; my phone can get 600mbps symmetric with line of sight or 200-300mbps from two floors away. Just bonkers.
- nerdsniper 1y ago
  I'm now curious if upgrading from two Unifi U6 LR's to U7 Pro's would offer significant benefits for Wifi 6 endpoints.
  - mikepurvis 1y ago
    I very much doubt it wills make any difference right now, especially in a home environment where it’s only a handful of clients and minimal real congestion. I got the pros as a vanity move to be 6GHz ready but truthfully there’s zero reason for it.
beAbU 1y ago
> I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7. They've been doing this since the dawn of wifi pretty much. I distinctly remember seeing "802.11 draft n" being printed an all the hot new and faster wifi cards back in the day.

hulitu 1y ago

>I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7. No need to be left behind. They can already release WiFi 9 products. /s

Neywiny 1y ago

I have a computer with a 1G Ethernet phy designed before everything was ratified. Not great. I'll make sure to wait

halapro 1y ago

I don't need lower latency, I need better congestion management. WiFi in busy areas (like airports) sucks.

IlikeKitties 1y ago
I recently torrented a movie on a airport wifi while waiting for a plane and it worked so well, even when walking around the airport to the plane. I was impressed.
- 2III7 1y ago
  Use a remote server for such vile behavior.
  - IlikeKitties 1y ago
    Nah, that's too much work, public wifi is great for that.
  - miyuru 1y ago
    can you explain why using torrents is vile behavior?
    - CuriousRose 1y ago
      Without a personal opinion one way or the other, I would assume the gripe is with congesting the public network as opposed to the choice of public domain documentaries you downloaded.
      - cheschire 1y ago
        “Linux ISOs”
      - IlikeKitties 1y ago
        Oh to be clear I illegally downloaded copyrighted works of major movie studios while they had just hit the streaming sites.
piva00 1y ago
I haven't encountered issues with airports' WiFi in many years, at least not the ones I fly from in Europe. What airports have you seen issues lately? It's one thing I haven't thought about in a long time.
throw0101a 1y ago
> WiFi in busy areas (like airports) sucks. This is part of what opening up the 6 GHz was about. But there are also provisions in newer standards like Target Wake Time: the client can be told to sleep for a while, not using radio spectrum (and also saving battery). * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah#Target_Wake_Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah#Target_Wake_Time OFDMA allows multiple clients to use the same frequency at the same time (using sub-channels): * https://airheads.hpe.com/blogs/antar1/2020/10/19/why-is-ofdma-a-magical-feature-in-80211ax-standard https://airheads.hpe.com/blogs/antar1/2020/10/19/why-is-ofdm... * https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/stories/detail/201 https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/stories/detail/201
ChocolateGod 1y ago
They're not necessarily different things. Increased latency can happen as a result of congestion on the band.

lazycatjumping 1y ago

> I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7. They must. Otherwise it cannot be tested within the labs. And producing chips before a standard is finalized is usually no problem at all: there are gates within the standardization process where the will be no more changes that are relevant for the silicon. These 802.11n-draft APs were a singular fuckup regarding this.

mikepurvis 1y ago

Similar transition for me. Basic dual AP setup that I took from first gen UAPs (wifi 4) to U7 Pro. I think I have only one client (a Lenovo laptop) that connects with wifi 7, but even the wifi 6 devices are screamers now; my phone can get 600mbps symmetric with line of sight or 200-300mbps from two floors away. Just bonkers.

nerdsniper 1y ago
I'm now curious if upgrading from two Unifi U6 LR's to U7 Pro's would offer significant benefits for Wifi 6 endpoints.
- mikepurvis 1y ago
  I very much doubt it wills make any difference right now, especially in a home environment where it’s only a handful of clients and minimal real congestion. I got the pros as a vanity move to be 6GHz ready but truthfully there’s zero reason for it.

beAbU 1y ago

> I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7. They've been doing this since the dawn of wifi pretty much. I distinctly remember seeing "802.11 draft n" being printed an all the hot new and faster wifi cards back in the day.