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Yes, the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels will continue their punishment until the English no longer want their own parliament.

thebruce87m 1y ago
> the English Any particular reason you left the other 3 countries out?
youngtaff 1y ago
Britain isn’t part of the single market or customs union anymore so it’s treated like every other “third” country As a Britain it was obvious this would happen when we left the EU and the paperwork / costs involved with trading with the EU would rise and damage our economy We had liars and charlatans saying “we held all the cards” and leaving wouldn’t affect things and a lot of gullible people believed them Thos same liars and charlatans are now complaining about how many civil servants the UK has while neglecting the fact that we had to hire 100,000 to cope with the effects of Brexit
FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago
And how do those unelected bureaucrats (nice framing, tells a lot about who you are) punish the UK?
- general1465 1y ago
  It is also ironic framing, because main Brexit negotiator for UK has been unelected bureaucrat Lord David Frost.
general1465 1y ago
I think that you forgot /s Britain decided to leave EU, yet somehow Brits felt entitled to Single Market. It could have customs union like Turkey has, but that would require some compromises on Brexit, which cult of Brexit did not allow.
- youngtaff 1y ago
  As a Britain… I don’t think we wanted to leave the single market and I’m unconvinced that people actually wanted to leave the EU — mainly because they didn’t know what it meant and even the Brexit promoters said a Yes vote wouldn’t mean leaving the EU What they wanted to do was give the Establishment / Tories a black eye but ended up enabling the people what who were pushing for a hard Brexit that worked against most people’s interests
  - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
    One of the things that I detest about the Brexit referendum was that "Brexit" wasn't at all defined (apart from leaving the EU). There were lots of hot air about Brexit not at all meaning a "hard" exit from the single market, and yet here we are. My favourite analogy on the referendum is having people vote on whether to have "meat" or "vegetarian" dinner: Suppose 40% of people enjoy vegetarian food, 20% only eat pork, 20% only eat beef and 20% only eat chicken. Then, after "voting", the results come in as 60% for "meat" and 40% for veg. However, what meal can you prepare to satisfy the "meat" vote considering that you can only satisfy 20% of them? (By the way, I was thrown off by your use of "As a Britain" rather than "As a Brit")
    - youngtaff 1y ago
      I never refer to myself as a Brit… I’m British or a Britain or from the UK

thebruce87m 1y ago

> the English Any particular reason you left the other 3 countries out?

youngtaff 1y ago

Britain isn’t part of the single market or customs union anymore so it’s treated like every other “third” country As a Britain it was obvious this would happen when we left the EU and the paperwork / costs involved with trading with the EU would rise and damage our economy We had liars and charlatans saying “we held all the cards” and leaving wouldn’t affect things and a lot of gullible people believed them Thos same liars and charlatans are now complaining about how many civil servants the UK has while neglecting the fact that we had to hire 100,000 to cope with the effects of Brexit

FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago

And how do those unelected bureaucrats (nice framing, tells a lot about who you are) punish the UK?

general1465 1y ago
It is also ironic framing, because main Brexit negotiator for UK has been unelected bureaucrat Lord David Frost.

general1465 1y ago

I think that you forgot /s Britain decided to leave EU, yet somehow Brits felt entitled to Single Market. It could have customs union like Turkey has, but that would require some compromises on Brexit, which cult of Brexit did not allow.

youngtaff 1y ago
As a Britain… I don’t think we wanted to leave the single market and I’m unconvinced that people actually wanted to leave the EU — mainly because they didn’t know what it meant and even the Brexit promoters said a Yes vote wouldn’t mean leaving the EU What they wanted to do was give the Establishment / Tories a black eye but ended up enabling the people what who were pushing for a hard Brexit that worked against most people’s interests
- ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
  One of the things that I detest about the Brexit referendum was that "Brexit" wasn't at all defined (apart from leaving the EU). There were lots of hot air about Brexit not at all meaning a "hard" exit from the single market, and yet here we are. My favourite analogy on the referendum is having people vote on whether to have "meat" or "vegetarian" dinner: Suppose 40% of people enjoy vegetarian food, 20% only eat pork, 20% only eat beef and 20% only eat chicken. Then, after "voting", the results come in as 60% for "meat" and 40% for veg. However, what meal can you prepare to satisfy the "meat" vote considering that you can only satisfy 20% of them? (By the way, I was thrown off by your use of "As a Britain" rather than "As a Brit")
  - youngtaff 1y ago
    I never refer to myself as a Brit… I’m British or a Britain or from the UK