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How much of it is GPL3?

by positron26 1y ago

tgma 1y ago
Why would it matter in this context; the GP was asking a theoretical question akin to "how is it physically possible for the sky to be blue?" and I am just pointing at the sky saying "look!" It is Free Software whether it is BSD or GPL3. By all measures, Free Software as originally envisaged has been a massive success. It's just the goalposts have expanded over the years.
- positron26 1y ago
  > It is Free Software whether it is BSD or GPL3. You clearly did not read the FSF manifestos and don't understand their positions. They will call the BSD license "permissive" and will correct you if you attempt to call BSD "free/libre". > Why would it matter The FSF didn't build "open source." They actively work to discredit open source. Let's not give them credit for what they tirelessly denounce. Linux is open source, but did not adopt the GPL3. Firefox is open source but uses MPL. If the FSF is a leader who is responsible for all of these great projects, why doesn't anyone want to use their license?
  - tgma 1y ago
    > ...will correct you if you attempt to call BSD "free/libre". Wrong. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.en.html > The FSF didn't build "open source." They actively work to discredit open source. Let's not give them credit for what they tirelessly denounce. Where did I ever use that term in this conversation?
    - positron26 1y ago
      > Where did I ever use that term in this conversation? You didn't because you glossed over my central point. Open source's success in the last twenty years came in spite of the FSF, not because of it.
seba_dos1 1y ago
Assuming LGPLv3 and AGPLv3 count too - quite a lot, on both my laptop and phone. Most of the core utilities, pretty much entire system UIs, most applications I run... The MPL browser I use on the laptop and GPLv2 kernel are probably the most notable exceptions, I guess.

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How much of it is GPL3?

by positron26 1y ago

How much of it is GPL3?

tgma 1y ago
Why would it matter in this context; the GP was asking a theoretical question akin to "how is it physically possible for the sky to be blue?" and I am just pointing at the sky saying "look!" It is Free Software whether it is BSD or GPL3. By all measures, Free Software as originally envisaged has been a massive success. It's just the goalposts have expanded over the years.
- positron26 1y ago
  > It is Free Software whether it is BSD or GPL3. You clearly did not read the FSF manifestos and don't understand their positions. They will call the BSD license "permissive" and will correct you if you attempt to call BSD "free/libre". > Why would it matter The FSF didn't build "open source." They actively work to discredit open source. Let's not give them credit for what they tirelessly denounce. Linux is open source, but did not adopt the GPL3. Firefox is open source but uses MPL. If the FSF is a leader who is responsible for all of these great projects, why doesn't anyone want to use their license?
  - tgma 1y ago
    > ...will correct you if you attempt to call BSD "free/libre". Wrong. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.en.html > The FSF didn't build "open source." They actively work to discredit open source. Let's not give them credit for what they tirelessly denounce. Where did I ever use that term in this conversation?
    - positron26 1y ago
      > Where did I ever use that term in this conversation? You didn't because you glossed over my central point. Open source's success in the last twenty years came in spite of the FSF, not because of it.
seba_dos1 1y ago
Assuming LGPLv3 and AGPLv3 count too - quite a lot, on both my laptop and phone. Most of the core utilities, pretty much entire system UIs, most applications I run... The MPL browser I use on the laptop and GPLv2 kernel are probably the most notable exceptions, I guess.