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I am with you on this. Geez. You might as well say "I behaved irresponsibly and as I write this I am still irresponsible. What to do, O what to do??" How abou

I am with you on this. Geez. You might as well say "I behaved irresponsibly and as I write this I am still irresponsible. What to do, O what to do??" How about take responsibility for yourself?

alganet 1y ago
There is a lot of belief systems in place that shape how human relationships should be. Would you date someone that has a different political affiliation? Be friends with someone who holds different values? And so on... Digital algorithms now play a role in those belief systems, and the broadcasting of lifes in those digital platforms is a key part of it. The question "how to take responsibility for yourself?" and similar rejection attitudes nowadays act more like a public encouragement to self-shun. It is, in itself, an act of broadcasting with the explicit goal of interacting with such belief systems. The most obscene thing you can do in such an arrangement of beliefs is to expose one of the belief systems. It is kind of an attention grabbing mechanism, but very different from Kardashian-style media presence. It's way, way more obscene.
- satisfice 1y ago
  I think it simpler than all that: it’s enacting social order. This is not weird or transgressive or obscene. With our individual words and deeds we create a conceptual terrain that constrains social behavior. It’s a form of marketing. I get meaning from reminding my fellow adults about what it means to BE an adult, instead of a child. I am marketing a philosophy of living.
  - alganet 1y ago
    Tapestry of belief systems, conceptual terrain that constrains social behavior... same stuff. I don't claim he is the one being obscene. I think he's quite conservative (the idea of AI influencing behavior is not new and his example is simplistic). I was talking about myself attempting to describe these dynamics in more clear cut terms. It's also not universally obscene, it's obscene in a "everybody knows but you are not supposed to talk about it" way.

I am with you on this. Geez. You might as well say "I behaved irresponsibly and as I write this I am still irresponsible. What to do, O what to do??" How about take responsibility for yourself?

alganet 1y ago

There is a lot of belief systems in place that shape how human relationships should be. Would you date someone that has a different political affiliation? Be friends with someone who holds different values? And so on... Digital algorithms now play a role in those belief systems, and the broadcasting of lifes in those digital platforms is a key part of it. The question "how to take responsibility for yourself?" and similar rejection attitudes nowadays act more like a public encouragement to self-shun. It is, in itself, an act of broadcasting with the explicit goal of interacting with such belief systems. The most obscene thing you can do in such an arrangement of beliefs is to expose one of the belief systems. It is kind of an attention grabbing mechanism, but very different from Kardashian-style media presence. It's way, way more obscene.

satisfice 1y ago
I think it simpler than all that: it’s enacting social order. This is not weird or transgressive or obscene. With our individual words and deeds we create a conceptual terrain that constrains social behavior. It’s a form of marketing. I get meaning from reminding my fellow adults about what it means to BE an adult, instead of a child. I am marketing a philosophy of living.
- alganet 1y ago
  Tapestry of belief systems, conceptual terrain that constrains social behavior... same stuff. I don't claim he is the one being obscene. I think he's quite conservative (the idea of AI influencing behavior is not new and his example is simplistic). I was talking about myself attempting to describe these dynamics in more clear cut terms. It's also not universally obscene, it's obscene in a "everybody knows but you are not supposed to talk about it" way.