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> I should be able to get citizenship in an EU county based on ancestry Imagine complaining about America and then fleeing to an ethnostate.
by rayiner 1y ago
> I should be able to get citizenship in an EU county based on ancestry
Imagine complaining about America and then fleeing to an ethnostate.
- Argonaut998 1y agoThere are no ethnostates in Europe anymore unfortunately. Every European city is indistinguishable from New York these days
- rayiner 1y agoI can’t get Italian or Irish citizenship because I’m ethnically Bangladeshi. Many Americans, however, can get Italian or Irish citizenship, because they have grandparents born in those countries. Virtually all of these people are ethnically Irish or Italian—who else has grandparents born in Ireland or Italy? They are de facto ethnostates. I certainly don’t begrudge them that—I’m grateful my people have their ethnostate. My ancestors have been in Bangladesh for 25,000 years—I shouldn’t (and in fact don't). need a visa to go back.
- Argonaut998 1y agoI am Irish, we are not an ethnostate whatsoever. Truthfully I don’t know why we have citizenship by descent but Irish people roll their eyes at Americans with Irish ancestry. It’s not about ethnicity though, it’s familial lineage. If your grandfather was Bangladeshi and moved to Ireland and was a citizen, then his descendants moved to the US, they would be entitled to Irish citizenship.
- rayiner 1y agoIreland is a homeland for Irish people. That was the whole point of the country. The same is true for my country. It was something achieved at great cost for the sake of a people. How many Bangladeshis had Irish citizenship in 1950? Almost none. Ireland was 87% Irish as recently as 2006, probably more if you exclude residents with UK citizenship. Virtually anyone who doesn’t have Irish citizenship but whose grandparents did have Irish citizenship is ethnically Irish. For most European countries, there is no difference between “ethnicity” and “familial lineage” until recently.
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- CyberDildonics 1y agoWhy are you so focused on race and ethnicity?
- rayiner 1y agoI’m a third worlder who knows how dangerous ethnic identity is. And after never thinking about race growing up, we suffered a cultural revolution in America. I was declared a “people of color” and now my daughter’s middle school has racially segregated affinity groups: > Middle School Affinity Groups: BIPOC, Black Girl Magic, Neurodiversity and Disabled Alliance, Rainbow Affinity, Young Men of Color Affinity
- CyberDildonics 1y agoWhat does this have to do with europe being an "ethnostate" ? What in the world are you even talking about?
- rayiner 1y agoAre you American?
- CyberDildonics 1y agoWhy isn't there a straightforward answer? Why is it so convoluted?
- rayiner 1y agoIf you know about the political situation in America you would know why it is ironic that someone would invoke ancestry-based citizenship rights to leave America out of protest of the current president.
- CyberDildonics 1y agoIt makes perfect sense to me. You haven't explained anything, you just keep repeating a vague premise and saying if someone doesn't agree they 'must not understand'.