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>You said this is a lean, lightweight browser, but it's 8MB! I laugh at your silly lies! >Take it easy, sport. Phoenix has many files that override those in Mo

>You said this is a lean, lightweight browser, but it's 8MB! I laugh at your silly lies! >Take it easy, sport. Phoenix has many files that override those in Mozilla, but it also has a new set of files. These files render a ton of files in Mozilla unnecessary, but we haven't yet stopped packaging the old files. It also still contains the modern theme and all the composer UI. In short, we haven't done any work yet to minimize the size, but we expect to be able to hit 6MB with a little work. Things have changed quite a bit.

dave1010uk 14y ago
Firefox is currently 17MB. It's pretty amazing that that size includes (off tge top of my head): JavaScript interpreter/compiler, HTML4 & 5 parser, XML parser, CSS parser, graphics engine, layout engine, WebGL, lots of typographical features, plugin API, extension API, DOM, BOM, developer tools.
- ww520 14y ago
  Plus Sqlite.
  - eloisant 14y ago
    Well, Sqlite is between 4k and 350k depending what features you activate. You can't really blame the bloat on it.
    - mkhalil 14y ago
      But they were saying how it's NOT bloated.
- PommeDeTerre 14y ago
  It's much less impressive when you consider that Opera offers basically all of that, plus a built-in email client, and built-in BitTorrent support, and a built-in IRC client, and built-in ad blocking, among other features. And the largest Windows installer of the current 12.02 version is merely about 10.5 MB, too.
  - mns2 14y ago
    How is bloatware impressive? The vast majority of the world will never need to use any of that. Built-in ad blocking is about the only useful thing you listed, and Ad-Block and ABP are widely used.
    - PommeDeTerre 14y ago
      I think you missed the point. What is impressive is that Opera offers much more functionality than Firefox, yet its installer is nearly half as large. Whether or not the additional functionality offered by Opera is useful is irrelevant to this discussion.

dave1010uk 14y ago

Firefox is currently 17MB. It's pretty amazing that that size includes (off tge top of my head): JavaScript interpreter/compiler, HTML4 & 5 parser, XML parser, CSS parser, graphics engine, layout engine, WebGL, lots of typographical features, plugin API, extension API, DOM, BOM, developer tools.

ww520 14y ago
Plus Sqlite.
- eloisant 14y ago
  Well, Sqlite is between 4k and 350k depending what features you activate. You can't really blame the bloat on it.
  - mkhalil 14y ago
    But they were saying how it's NOT bloated.
PommeDeTerre 14y ago
It's much less impressive when you consider that Opera offers basically all of that, plus a built-in email client, and built-in BitTorrent support, and a built-in IRC client, and built-in ad blocking, among other features. And the largest Windows installer of the current 12.02 version is merely about 10.5 MB, too.
- mns2 14y ago
  How is bloatware impressive? The vast majority of the world will never need to use any of that. Built-in ad blocking is about the only useful thing you listed, and Ad-Block and ABP are widely used.
  - PommeDeTerre 14y ago
    I think you missed the point. What is impressive is that Opera offers much more functionality than Firefox, yet its installer is nearly half as large. Whether or not the additional functionality offered by Opera is useful is irrelevant to this discussion.