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It looks like a huge hassle, but I should be able to get citizenship in an EU county based on ancestry. I should do that sooner than later.

aaronrobinson 1y ago
If it’s Italy you may be disappointed as they’ve recently changed the rules
- zoklet-enjoyer 1y ago
  My mom's dad was from Italy and her mom from Germany. I want to try for German citizenship. It looks like I'm eligible based on what I saw online. Previously I had looked into Italian citizenship and found that I wasn't eligible because my grandpa had become an American before my mom was born
  - aaronrobinson 1y ago
    You used to have to prove that your ancestor hadn’t given up the Italian citizenship which is where you would have missed out. I believe your ancestor is now limited to parent or grandparent AND one or both must have a ‘connection’ to Italy - as in they were born there and/or live there. I know nothing about German citizenship but my advice to you would be to start the process now given the far right momentum in Germany and the world in general. I’ve been through the process and mine was fairly straightforward and it still took a couple of years to gather and legalise document and then go through the process.
  - saguntum 1y ago
    Look at reddit.com/r/GermanCitizenship
rayiner 1y ago
> I should be able to get citizenship in an EU county based on ancestry Imagine complaining about America and then fleeing to an ethnostate.
- Argonaut998 1y ago
  There are no ethnostates in Europe anymore unfortunately. Every European city is indistinguishable from New York these days
  - rayiner 1y ago
    I can’t get Italian or Irish citizenship because I’m ethnically Bangladeshi. Many Americans, however, can get Italian or Irish citizenship, because they have grandparents born in those countries. Virtually all of these people are ethnically Irish or Italian—who else has grandparents born in Ireland or Italy? They are de facto ethnostates. I certainly don’t begrudge them that—I’m grateful my people have their ethnostate. My ancestors have been in Bangladesh for 25,000 years—I shouldn’t (and in fact don't). need a visa to go back.
    - Argonaut998 1y ago
      I am Irish, we are not an ethnostate whatsoever. Truthfully I don’t know why we have citizenship by descent but Irish people roll their eyes at Americans with Irish ancestry. It’s not about ethnicity though, it’s familial lineage. If your grandfather was Bangladeshi and moved to Ireland and was a citizen, then his descendants moved to the US, they would be entitled to Irish citizenship.
      - rayiner 1y ago
        Ireland is a homeland for Irish people. That was the whole point of the country. The same is true for my country. It was something achieved at great cost for the sake of a people. How many Bangladeshis had Irish citizenship in 1950? Almost none. Ireland was 87% Irish as recently as 2006, probably more if you exclude residents with UK citizenship. Virtually anyone who doesn’t have Irish citizenship but whose grandparents did have Irish citizenship is ethnically Irish. For most European countries, there is no difference between “ethnicity” and “familial lineage” until recently.
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aaronrobinson 1y ago

If it’s Italy you may be disappointed as they’ve recently changed the rules

zoklet-enjoyer 1y ago
My mom's dad was from Italy and her mom from Germany. I want to try for German citizenship. It looks like I'm eligible based on what I saw online. Previously I had looked into Italian citizenship and found that I wasn't eligible because my grandpa had become an American before my mom was born
- aaronrobinson 1y ago
  You used to have to prove that your ancestor hadn’t given up the Italian citizenship which is where you would have missed out. I believe your ancestor is now limited to parent or grandparent AND one or both must have a ‘connection’ to Italy - as in they were born there and/or live there. I know nothing about German citizenship but my advice to you would be to start the process now given the far right momentum in Germany and the world in general. I’ve been through the process and mine was fairly straightforward and it still took a couple of years to gather and legalise document and then go through the process.
- saguntum 1y ago
  Look at reddit.com/r/GermanCitizenship

rayiner 1y ago

> I should be able to get citizenship in an EU county based on ancestry Imagine complaining about America and then fleeing to an ethnostate.

Argonaut998 1y ago
There are no ethnostates in Europe anymore unfortunately. Every European city is indistinguishable from New York these days
- rayiner 1y ago
  I can’t get Italian or Irish citizenship because I’m ethnically Bangladeshi. Many Americans, however, can get Italian or Irish citizenship, because they have grandparents born in those countries. Virtually all of these people are ethnically Irish or Italian—who else has grandparents born in Ireland or Italy? They are de facto ethnostates. I certainly don’t begrudge them that—I’m grateful my people have their ethnostate. My ancestors have been in Bangladesh for 25,000 years—I shouldn’t (and in fact don't). need a visa to go back.
  - Argonaut998 1y ago
    I am Irish, we are not an ethnostate whatsoever. Truthfully I don’t know why we have citizenship by descent but Irish people roll their eyes at Americans with Irish ancestry. It’s not about ethnicity though, it’s familial lineage. If your grandfather was Bangladeshi and moved to Ireland and was a citizen, then his descendants moved to the US, they would be entitled to Irish citizenship.
    - rayiner 1y ago
      Ireland is a homeland for Irish people. That was the whole point of the country. The same is true for my country. It was something achieved at great cost for the sake of a people. How many Bangladeshis had Irish citizenship in 1950? Almost none. Ireland was 87% Irish as recently as 2006, probably more if you exclude residents with UK citizenship. Virtually anyone who doesn’t have Irish citizenship but whose grandparents did have Irish citizenship is ethnically Irish. For most European countries, there is no difference between “ethnicity” and “familial lineage” until recently.
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